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Old 06-05-2021, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Obama's is destroying a public lakefront park.

Public land.

That's pretty selfish of him. How many acres would need to be reduced to not interfere with the park?
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Old 06-05-2021, 02:47 PM
 
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Obama's is destroying a public lakefront park.

Public land.
Public land being used for a public purpose. The presidential libraries are part of the National Archives.

Sure, this changes the nature of the park, but public lands have become parks, or moved from being parks, previously.

This is not an unprecedented occurrence.
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Old 06-05-2021, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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That's pretty selfish of him. How many acres would need to be reduced to not interfere with the park?
All of it.

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Public land being used for a public purpose. The presidential libraries are part of the National Archives.

Sure, this changes the nature of the park, but public lands have become parks, or moved from being parks, previously.

This is not an unprecedented occurrence.
His "library" is a privately owned and operated - it's not federally maintained - on public land.
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Old 06-05-2021, 02:57 PM
 
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Yeah, this is a big issue for me.

I'm a South Sider by birth, born and raised and lived there for years - this is utter destruction of Jackson Park and it breaks my heart.

But nobody is being moved from their homes.
Change happens. Seems like the project is stalling money-wise but with Biden in office and so forth that will probably get the money flowing a little better at this point.

Normally I say leave it up to the local citizens but heck, it's Chicago and the leadership is going to do what they're going to do regardless. That likely means shoving the poorer folk further out and upscaling the area like they did with Cabrini Green a million years ago.

At least it could be a pretty good tourist attraction, as long as they keep muggings etc. to a minimum which they can....but that requires um....classic Chicago policing which is no longer en vouge.
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Change happens. Seems like the project is stalling money-wise but with Biden in office and so forth that will probably get the money flowing a little better at this point.

Normally I say leave it up to the local citizens but heck, it's Chicago and the leadership is going to do what they're going to do regardless. That likely means shoving the poorer folk further out and upscaling the area like they did with Cabrini Green a million years ago.
Biden has nothing to do with it.

There has been a large coalition of local residents who have been fighting this for years.

You can't compare Cabrini Green to this area at all.
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:01 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It is not real estate. It is public land for the people of Chicago and they don't want to give it away.


But you told us it was "forcibly moving people from their homes."

Where is the evidence people have homes on public land and are forcibly being moved?
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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At least it could be a pretty good tourist attraction, as long as they keep muggings etc. to a minimum which they can....but that requires um....classic Chicago policing which is no longer en vouge.
I just saw this part ... lol. CPD is pretty much live and let live at this point. Or live and let shoot.

This project bothers the hell out of me. It's so personal to me I shouldn't even comment on it. Ugh.
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:05 PM
 
Location: The South
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Surely you folks don’t want him to build it in Alabama or Mississippi.
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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But you told us it was "forcibly moving people from their homes."

Where is the evidence people have homes on public land and are forcibly being moved?
read the thread, it is only two pages.
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:13 PM
 
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Obama's is destroying a public lakefront park.

Public land.
The Bush Library had lots of opposition to its site. It is the second-largest presidential library, behind only the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California. In December 2006, a letter from several members of the Perkins School of Theology to R. Gerald Turner, president of the Board of Trustees, criticized Bush's policies as "ethically egregious" and expressed concern that the library would serve as a "conservative think tank and policy institute that engages in legacy polishing and grooms young conservatives for public office." Another group of faculty complained about the lack of consultation in the decision to house the library on campus. A group of Methodists launched a petition opposing plans to build the library and museum at SMU, calling it inappropriate to link Bush's presidency to a university bearing the Methodist name. The University bought up many homes to acquire the land it was built on.
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