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That's the most silly overly-simplistic dodge I've ever heard. Free speech is also an agreed upon principle of western societies. You can abridge free speech as a private citizen, or as a corporation.
It's a new thing in our current corporatocracy. The government keeps its hands clean by adhering to the Constitution, and outsources the censorship dirty work to big tech and other private entities. Brilliant.
If I submitted a very liberal article or letter to the editor to a very right-wing publication, like TGP or Epoch Times, do you think they would publish it? And if they chose not to publish it, would that be a violation of my right to Free Speech?
...A spokesman for the court, Gabriel Roberts, said Henkel, who was hired by the court on July 1, 1992, is no longer an employee and that his termination was based on multiple violations of the Unified Judicial System Code of Conduct and the nondiscrimination and equal employment policy...
The alleged interaction:
In the video, someone can be heard telling him, "That's not your property," as he pulls the signs from the fence.
"I know. It's the city, I pay for this," Henkel, 61, responds.
A woman then asks him, "Oh you pay for that?" to which he responds, "Yeah. My taxes pay for this place."
The woman says, "Oh, OK."
"Just so you know," Henkel tells her. "So I could do whatever I want."
The woman asks, "You could do whatever you want?" And Henkel says, "You're f------ right I can."
The woman tells Henkel, "See ya around" and he says, "Good. I'm always around. You're welcome."
Americans like me who are Gen X’ers and older most likely recall hearing from their elders that there are several topics one does not bring up in order to keep company polite:
Politics
Sex
Money
Religion
I remember being told that these topics are best discussed with close friends and family only. I recall reading a Good Housekeeping article about “perfect dinner parties” being ones where those topics are not addressed. There is truth to this idea. Casual acquaintances, coworkers, and neighbors don’t need to know your feelings on these topics, and insistence on discussing them will lead to alienation.
Why can’t Americans agree to once again use some discretion and tact when it comes to these ideals? We’re becoming a rather uncivilized narcissistic bunch who believe our opinions are important enough to be shared anywhere at any time with anybody.
It’s past time for us to put the brakes on our national narcissism and go back to being decent and kind Americans to each other once again.
That's the most silly overly-simplistic dodge I've ever heard. Free speech is also an agreed upon principle of western societies. You can abridge free speech as a private citizen, or as a corporation.
It's a new thing in our current corporatocracy. The government keeps its hands clean by adhering to the Constitution, and outsources the censorship dirty work to big tech and other private entities. Brilliant.
Again, as others have said and I agree -- it is not that conservatives are embarrassed to share their views, it is only that they are afraid of reprisals in some cases.
And some of us just don't enjoy being confrontational and/or risking unpleasantness -- especially in the workplace or with family members.
" Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.
In this excerpt we see that sacred rights encompass natural rights, personal liberty, and the right to private property (i.e., absolutely owned by an individual).
NATURAL RIGHTS - ... are the rights of life, liberty, privacy, and good reputation.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p. 1324
Short review of the foundation of American law - - -
" We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."
--- Declaration of Independence, 1776
Don't Tread on Me, superseded the Betsey Ross Flag. It is the reason you are armed at all times. If another person oppresses your birthrights, a justified killing is in order.
If cons feel they can’t speak freely, they should look deep in themselves to ask why that is. Maybe they should reflect on the fact that their outdated, offensive, racist, smug, annoying, immature views are not considered appropriate or valid anymore. Maybe they should do a restart & start evolving as the rest of the population has done.
The arrogance of this point of view is off the scale.
You included the terms smug, annoying and immature in that screed, applying them to your opposition.
Look deep into themselves?? My views, which are now closer to conservatives, are the same views I had when I was a NY liberal for my entire life, until about five or six years ago.
Absolute free speech, questioning authority, borders (always seemed to be a given), fair wages, equality (not equity), pluralism, open debate, being suspicious of corporate power/the media, civil liberties, the Constitution, anti-war (and anti-interventionism), the environment (which is very different from the climate movement)...
I've looked deep within myself and I'm the same yoga loving hippie I've always been. The problem is the left has become extremely authoritarian, and authoritarianism is against everything I stand for.
It's ironic you are calling people 'smug' yet have appointed yourself the arbiter of what is considered a valid view. Open debate in a free society determines the value of views--not some group deciding who is 'evolved' or not.
Yes, I have said almost the exact same thing. I voted for the Democrat POTUS candidate from 1968 through 2008, inclusive -- and it has only been within the past ten years or so that in my opinion the Democratic party has been taken over by those on the far left.
My essential belief in equal rights and opportunity for everyone has not changed at all since I was old enough to care about such things.
But now it seems that having this belief is not good enough, and that the only way that those on the far left will be happy is if whites admit their "guilt" for things that happened before they were even born and confess that they are (supposedly) evil and make amends for the horrors of slavery and almost the complete eradication of the culture of indigenous people that happened more than a hundred years ago -- if such amends are even possible! And not only that, but it seems that those on the far left would also ask (demand) that those of us who are cisgendered and descended from Europeans renounce almost everything about our own culture and hand the U.S. over to those who want a drastic revision of government ("abolish the electoral college!") and who want to teach children the "progressive" ideology (for example, the "fact" that they can actually choose which sex to be).
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Poor conservatives, are your ideas not worth sharing. Don’t want to back em up when someone else disagrees? You want an echo chamber. Please plenty of opportunities to say what you think no matter where you live. You choose not to is all.
Whoa....if a leftist speaks up the crowd cheers. A squeaky wheel get the grease.
But if a person on the right speak up or share their ideas they could lose their job or be beaten up by the leftist mob. It happens all the time it seems.
So I think it's safer to be quiet and voice your opinion on election day.
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