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Just read what i said, and stop inserting Democratic Party talking points. I never mentioned Trump, or fraud, because those are irrelevant points. I'm referring to unauthorized and illegal ways that state election laws were altered.
There were changes made to voting laws by boards of directors, court judges and governors. These people do not have the authority to amend or rewrite state election laws, rules, procedures etc... You know the process involved for creating and amending election laws. The state legislature writes and passes the law, the governor signs it into law.
I understand your point, you claimed that the changes were done indiscriminately by election boards, so why didn't they challenge the changes in court if that were true. I think PA is the only state that took it to the court, can you name the others. I don't see that there was any widespread violation by the states but that is not the basis for their claims. They are alleging massive systematic voter fraud in the swing states.
So were these changes only done in the states Trump lost or is that also the case where he won.
I know of one lawsuit regarding the state constitution, maybe you can name the others.
So? That's all you think were the changes made to state election laws? Here's just a few you left out:
In Michigan, their Secretary of State made changes to the standards ”for reviewing signatures, verifying signatures, and curing missing or mismatched signatures." She did not have the authority to do that
Virginia state law prohibited ballots without postmarks from being counted. But the Board of Elections illegally implemented election law changes allowing ballots to be counted even if they arrived without a postmark, and up to three days after the election.
I understand your point, you claimed that the changes were done indiscriminately by election boards, so why didn't they challenge the changes in court if that were true. I think PA is the only state that took it to the court, can you name the others. I don't see that there was any widespread violation by the states but that is not the basis for their claims. They are alleging massive systematic voter fraud in the swing states.
So were these changes only done in the states Trump lost or is that also the case where he won.
I know of one lawsuit regarding the state constitution, maybe you can name the others.
The most Trump voters can say is that states made it easier for legal voters to vote. So now many red states are trying to make it harder for those people to vote based on fraud in the 2020 election that they have been unable to prove.
Like you said there are checks and balances to any changes made on the state level. Trump was in power, his AG and the justice department could have stepped in or on a state level there was the opportunity to challenge in state court. Look in 2000 it went to the Supreme Court when the states were unable to decide how votes should be counted.
But I fail to see that if states made it easier to vote and there is no evidence that this caused widespread fraud or changed any election outcome what harm was done. Trump voters are just sore losers. Even worse than the sore loser HRC voters in 2016.
#2 - I'm unfamiliar with the scenario in Virginia. How does the VA Board of Elections change laws, exactly?
The lawsuit in Michigan was similar to happens in every election, this was the lawsuit I was speaking about. I would love to hear all these other unconstitutional state laws but the poster has disappeared. But the main issue is they are claiming is fraud, it has nothing to do with election laws.
They filed the lawsuit that regarding mail-in ballots a week after the election, the mail-in ballot changes had been on the books since 2019 but they waited until after the election to file.
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HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Pennsylvania’s highest court on Saturday night threw out a lower court’s order preventing the state from certifying dozens of contests on its Nov. 3 election ballot in the latest lawsuit filed by Republicans attempting to thwart President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the battleground state.
The state Supreme Court, in a unanimous decision, threw out the three-day-old order, saying the underlying lawsuit was filed months after the expiration of a time limit in Pennsylvania’s expansive year-old mail-in voting law allowing for challenges to it.
As a remedy, Kelly and the other Republican plaintiffs had sought to either throw out the 2.5 million mail-in ballots submitted under the law — most of them by Democrats — or to wipe out the election results and direct the state’s Republican-controlled Legislature to pick Pennsylvania’s presidential electors.
So how can republicans challenge a law that has been passed by a republican legislature that is over a year old.
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"After waiting over a year to challenge Act 77, and engaging in procedural gamesmanship along the way, they come to this Court with unclean hands and ask it to disenfranchise an entire state," they wrote. "They make that request without any acknowledgment of the staggering upheaval, turmoil, and acrimony it would unleash."
The law was passed in 2019 with widespread support from Pennsylvania Republicans, who control both chambers of the state's Legislature.
So, it does happen......stolen and fraudulent....but only by repubs...
But I thought it never happened?
I think they are referring to the 2000 presidential race. Otherwise I don't believe either side when they scream election fraud.
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