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Old 06-10-2021, 10:17 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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related - DOJ asks judge to dismiss BLM protesters’ case against Trump over Lafayette Square

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Old 06-10-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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Oh please. It took the OIG a year to figure this out. AN ENTIRE YEAR. And you expected the media to figure it out the next day? LOL. And why DID it take a year for this to come out? Some big secret? Why didn't the Trump propaganda machine announce this the next day after it broke? Huh? Somebody want to explain that?
huh? huh? trump issued a statement the following day. if that's not fast enough for you, too bad.

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Old 06-10-2021, 11:13 AM
 
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huh? huh? trump issued a statement the following day. if that's not fast enough for you, too bad.

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Your link doesn't say any such thing. Care to try again?
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Old 06-10-2021, 11:27 AM
 
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Anyone with two eyes could have seen that the 'protesters' were a security threat. I may have even been on these boards posting about that. They tried to breach the White House fence. They don't move the president into a bunker for no reason.
Oh? That's not what Trump said. Are you calling him a liar too? Trump says he went to White House bunker for 'inspection | Fox News
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The whole 'photo op' narrative was an invention of the media, and people ran with it.
Seems there's a bit of misinformation all the way around on that day, eh? The fact is, the park was cleared with force and less than an hour later Trump did his photo op there. You cannot deny that, and that is what was reported.
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Look what happened on January 6th. It could have easily happened to the White House. Actually, I think many in the media would have cheered it on. If BLM scaled the walls of the WH, like rioters did the Capitol building, they would have called it a 'reckoning' or an 'uprising' or some nonsense, just like they labeled the horrible, deadly summer of rioting a 'racial reckoning.' The media simply chose narrative over truth.
Your ludicrous strawman and deflection so noted and trivially discarded.
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Old 06-10-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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Oh? That's not what Trump said. Are you calling him a liar too? Trump says he went to White House bunker for 'inspection | Fox News
Seems there's a bit of misinformation all the way around on that day, eh? The fact is, the park was cleared with force and less than an hour later Trump did his photo op there. You cannot deny that, and that is what was reported. Your ludicrous strawman and deflection so noted and trivially discarded.
I don't know. Maybe Trump was lying. Or the NY Times was lying. Do you believe the Times or Trump? I'm going to believe my logic. It is logical to believe the secret service would take him to a bunker given the mob violence around the White House that evening.

"According to a report in the New York Times, Secret Service agents had "abruptly rushed the president to the underground bunker used in the past during terrorist attacks."


That's from your link.

The angry mobs injured Secret Service agents and tried to breach the WH fencing. Are you saying that is minor? I said it could have been like Jan 6 if they got through, not that it was. So no straw man there. Nevertheless, the entire MSM made light of the violent, deadly, riots all summer long, and that was wrong.

They reported that Trump gassed peaceful protesters in order to have a photo op, not the banal coincidence you suggest. That talking point was repeated non stop.
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Old 06-10-2021, 12:00 PM
 
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So a Trump appointee says the park was cleared for an unrelated reason less than an hour before Trump made his famous bible photo op. Just a big coincidence it was. Yeah, that's believable.
^^^

My thought exactly. What an amazing coincidence.

Bet those people who were gassed don't care if the gas was the park police or the DC cops.
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Old 06-10-2021, 12:02 PM
 
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To build a fence. Sure.

Still the dumbest photo op on Trump's part pretty much ever. He's spent more time in Stormy Daniels than he has in church.
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Old 06-10-2021, 01:15 PM
 
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^^^

My thought exactly. What an amazing coincidence.

Bet those people who were gassed don't care if the gas was the park police or the DC cops.
Why don't you try reading the report:

https://www.doioig.gov/sites/doioig....k_Public_0.pdf

These scumbags you're defending were burning down people's businesses, robbing them, they even tried to burn down a church by setting fire in the basement.

But let's worry about whether they got some bruises or not from non-lethal engagement. Oh and let's definitely not talk about the weeks long campaign of lies, distortions and obfuscating to "fortify" the election.

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That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

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Old 06-10-2021, 04:20 PM
 
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You didn't read the article. You didn't read it.
I read it all.

Here's the first paragraph:
"On June 1, 2020, amid the George Floyd protests in Washington, D.C., law enforcement officers, along with agents of the Secret Service, used tear gas and other riot control tactics to forcefully clear peaceful protesters from Lafayette Square, just before President Donald Trump and senior administration officials walked from the White House to St. John's Episcopal Church.[1][2][3]
Trump held up a Bible and posed for a photo op in front of Ashburton House (the church's parish house), which had been damaged by a fire during protests the night before."

This matches what the news media was broadcasting at that time quite precisely.

It also sums up the entire article quite well.
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Old 06-10-2021, 05:07 PM
 
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I read it all.

Here's the first paragraph:
"On June 1, 2020, amid the George Floyd protests in Washington, D.C., law enforcement officers, along with agents of the Secret Service, used tear gas and other riot control tactics to forcefully clear peaceful protesters from Lafayette Square, just before President Donald Trump and senior administration officials walked from the White House to St. John's Episcopal Church.[1][2][3]
Trump held up a Bible and posed for a photo op in front of Ashburton House (the church's parish house), which had been damaged by a fire during protests the night before."

This matches what the news media was broadcasting at that time quite precisely.

It also sums up the entire article quite well.
That sums up nothing and gives zero context.

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On May 29, 2020, Protests Began in Washington, DC

Protests in response to Floyd’s death began in Washington, DC, on May 29, 2020, and included crowds of protesters marching to the White House.4 USPP Acting Chief of Police Gregory Monahan and the USPP incident commander told us, and other evidence confirmed, that acts of violence occurred in and around Lafayette Park on the evening of May 29 into the morning of May 30. Specifically, the Treasury Annex building was vandalized; officers were assaulted with projectiles, such as bottles and bricks; and a brick struck a USPP officer in the head, resulting in the officer’s hospitalization.

The protests continued on May 30 and 31 and were mostly peaceful during the day. Similar to May 29, however, acts of violence increased in the late afternoon and evenings. USPP officers
reported that some protesters threw projectiles, such as bricks, rocks, caustic liquids, frozen water bottles, glass bottles, lit flares, rental scooters, and fireworks, at law enforcement officials.
A DCNG major, who served as the DCNG liaison to the USPP on June 1, told us that "Saturday [May 30] ... had been rather violent ... [ and] it was riotous" and "Sunday [May 31] ... was
what I expected ... people throwing bottles, hurling [objects], shooting fireworks ... at officers. " Overall, 49 USPP officers were injured during the protests from May 29 to May 31,
including one who underwent surgery for his injuries. The Secret Service and the DCNG also reported injuries to their personnel during this time.

Damage to both Federal and private property also occurred during the protests. With respect to Lafayette Park, historic statues were vandalized with graffiti, and on May 31, the park's comfort
station was set on fire (see Figures 2 and 3). A fire was also set in the basement at St. John's Church on May 31. Nearby stores and businesses were looted.

On May 31, Washington, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser ordered an 11 p .m. curfew, finding that "in the downtown area of the District of Columbia, numerous businesses and government buildings
were vandalized, burned, or looted. Over the past nights, there has been a glorification of violence particularly in the later hours of the night. ... The health, safety, and well-being of
persons within the District of Collllllbia are threatened and endangered by the existence of these violent actions." 6 The USPP incident commander and the USPP acting chief of police told us
that the curfew was ineffective in stopping the unrest in Lafayette Park.
https://www.doioig.gov/sites/doioig....k_Public_0.pdf

And then there is reality. We get it, you can carry out an asymmetric "war" against your fellow citizens with impunity. You can burn down cities and destroy businesses, government buildings, churches, public places, they can all burn to the ground with zero consequences. It's even done to cheers from your politicians. Encouragement is even given when they felt it is needed. You even get to blame the other side for all of it and the narrative move forward. You're winning! We're all winning!

Doesn't everyone feel like they're winning?
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