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Old 06-11-2021, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/greg-a...disregard-laws Thank you Gov Abbott for protecting Texas, because Biden won’t. Harris won’t even visit to see the disaster they created. Thank you Democrats for destroying the USA.
Abbot is up for re-election next year and needs to score some points. Looks like he will face some stiff competition in the primary. According to the link, Abbout intents to spend a part of 1 billion on the wall. Given how much has been spent thus far on 140 miles of wall, maybe Abbot can fund a few incremental feet.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10...-rising-trump/

As of year end, 2020, 140 miles of new wall had been erected, of which 100 miles replaced existing walls/ barriers. Only 40 miles of incremental wall had been built. Beginning a year ago, border protection said the ne wall was not achieving goals. People continued to scale the wall, tunnel underneath and blast through it.

It would be far cheaper for Texas to make EVerify of all employees and contractors mandatory with jaw dropping fines for offenders. Maybe Texas could do so and not create intentional loopholes the other states have.

No wall is high enough and no patrol deep enough so long as US businesses and people continue to employ undocumented people, including independent contractors.

Long time former Republican Governor, Perry was opposed to both a wall and eVerify. He obviously understood who buttered his bread in his state.

As far as Harris visiting, what’s the point, beyond a PR stunt?

I have long thought border surges were sponsored by third parties. People working the garbage dumps in Guatemala don’t have a pot to **** in and suddenly have funding to pay coyotes to take their kids across? I did not buy in in 2019 and I don’t buy it now.
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Old 06-11-2021, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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There you go -- let each state take charge.

I think delegating to the states is a brilliant idea.

Thanks to Biden's Presidency --- we can have Texans pay for the wall.

I love it.
So you're concerned about having to pay for the wall, but you're OK with your (rising) taxes going out of the country. Are you thanking Biden's Presidency for that? Sounds like you have your priorities all screwed up.
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Old 06-11-2021, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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Is this about the energy grid or border wall.

I hope Texas starts this ASAP. Biden has unofficially declared our southern border no longer exists. Their words are a wink and a nod. Very dirty politics.

I say a prayer for all of our brothers and sisters who served and died for this country. Countries don’t exist without borders. And in the case of the richest country on the planet who can afford to maintain its own border, the reality of our circumstance is even more glaring.

God bless..
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Old 06-11-2021, 05:49 PM
 
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If Abbott declares TX a state of emergency, can he get the national guard to go down there to help protect the border while they work on the wall? I have no idea how that works but that would be great.
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Old 06-11-2021, 06:30 PM
 
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If Abbott declares TX a state of emergency, can he get the national guard to go down there to help protect the border while they work on the wall? I have no idea how that works but that would be great.
The National Guard has been sent to the border before but they aren't allowed to do much and that's the problem. However, just their presence down there may have discouraged some.
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Old 06-12-2021, 01:42 AM
 
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Where will the money for this wall come from? The rainy day fund? My school taxes are increasing due to the state decreasing their share each year.

How does Abbott intend to pay for this wall? What will the governor do about property on the border being bought to allow illegals safe entry? Will he build a wall on private property?
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:16 AM
 
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I support a border wall, and I wish that the border was 100% secure. But at the same time, I don’t feel like Mexican and Central American immigrants can harm our country any more than what we are doing ourselves.

I currently live in a country which makes it basically impossible for foreigners to ever become a citizen, but they also have a very robust guest worker program. If you are an asset to the host country, they will take care of you (some what). But the day you stop being an asset, you get deported, no questions asked. I wish we had that system in the US.

But I know that will never happen. We will continue to kick our broken system down the road, until it eventually implodes in all of our faces.

We are a stupid country, and I think we all need to come to terms with that. Immigration will never be fixed, short of someone inventing a time machine to go back in time to kill the Immigration Act of 1965, permanently.
" We will continue to kick our broken system down the road,"

Our system is NOT broken. The laws are just NOT ENFORCED.
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:18 AM
 
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But will Texas get Mexico to pay for it??

I'm not at all opposed to a border wall - never was, however anyone who thinks a border wall is going to stop all traffic across the border needs a serious reality check.
"however anyone who thinks a border wall is going to stop all traffic across the border needs a serious reality check"


Anyone CLAIMING people believe this, "needs a serious reality check".
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:25 AM
 
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This BS again? https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

The good walls have know to be 90% effective in deterring illegal entry but that's not good enough? You're the one that needs a serious reality check of the truth! Why don't you just admit you don't want the wall because you are an illegal alien supporter and be done with it? At least it would be a little more honest!

Texas isn't asking Mexico to pay for it anyway. They know it is much more costly to their state to allow these illegal invaders to get in. They are making a smart move and I hope that every state that borders Mexico follows suit since Biden refuses to protect our country's borders.
" They know it is much more costly to their state to allow these illegal invaders to get in"


And this is at least 15 years old.


"One Hospital in one city in the USA
VERY INTENSE...thanks....long read but this situation and its long-term magnitude (and current status) warrant it at times...

This is only One Hospital in one city in the USA

Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas,Texas is a fairly famous institution
and for a variety of reasons:

1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963

2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after

3. Jack Ruby-who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later..by
coincidence

*"On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity
ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year*

*(That's almost 44 per day---every day)*

*A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave
birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal
immigrants.. That's 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas.*


According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering
15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars
in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County
taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5
million.

The average patient in Park land's maternity ward is 25 years old, married
and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant.. By
law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their
immigration status or ability to pay.

OK, fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday,
middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital, they do. Parkland
Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE.

The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient
at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child ---her previous two
were also born at Parkland. Her first two deliveries were free and the
Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in
Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for
the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not
that it matters, the hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even
bother asking at this point.)

"How long has this been going on? What are the long-term affects?

Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly
after her mother entered the US illegally - now she is having her own child
there as well (That's right, she's technically a US citizen)

These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition,
birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car
seats, bottles, diapers and formula.

Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only
for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost
insurmountable.

Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not have to provide any
sort of legitimate identification - no proof of income. An American citizen
would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their
annual income - an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the
hospital must take them at their word.

"My husband is a pilot for the United States Navy (yes, he fought in Iraq )
and while the health care is good, we Navy wives don't get any of these
perks! Car seats? Diapers? Not so much. So my question is this: Does our
public medical care system treat illegal immigrants better than American
citizens? Yes, it does!

As I mentioned, the care I have received is perfectly adequate but it's
bare bones, meat and potato medical care - not top of line.

Their (the illegals') medical care is free - simply because they are
illegal immigrants? Once again, there is no way to verify their income.

Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County residents who earn
less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not
refuse health coverage at their current job. Yeah, the 'free' care is not
so easy for Americans.)

There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for
un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free
treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County so the hospital is
going to sue them! Illegals get it all free! But US citizens who live
outside of Dallas County get sued! How stupid is this?

As if that isn't annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are
actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish. In this AP
story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to
translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband.
The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother
was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was
apparently a great injustice to her.

In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now
providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak
Spanish. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas
Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now
have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed
curriculum. No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous
multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.

( Sorry for the length, but this needs wide circulation - particularly to
our "employees" in Congress.)

*Remember that this is only ONE hospital is Dallas, Texas. There are many
more hospitals across our country that also have to deal with this.*

*SO TRUMP IS RIGHT WANTING TO FOCUS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGATION*

*REMEMBER THEY ARE NOT 'UNDOCUMENTED ' , THEY ARE ILLEGAL & MILKING AMERICA
DRY....*..

*PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY US CITIZEN AND LEGAL RESIDENT YOU KNOW.*

If you want to verify accuracy:
https://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrant-births-at-your-expense/ [/CENTER][/CENTER]
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Old 06-12-2021, 05:31 AM
 
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i was shocked when i heard this news yesterday. I first thought, can they do it? I mean does the US government (DC) have to authorize such a plan, since the Wall is going to be walling off that part of the USA.. i mean does DC have jurisdiction? or Texas?

so why didn't they think of this sooner? That would be great if each state like Arizona and California would do the same.
The wall will be built on TEXAS land NOT fed land, so the fed has zero say on it.
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