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Yes, there is a concerted effort to replace native-born Americans 77 63.64%
No, there is not a concerted effort to replace native-born Americans 40 33.06%
Other - explain 4 3.31%
Voters: 121. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-12-2021, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
Excellent points.
It does beg the question: would people be screaming about “replacement” if more current immigrants had Tucker Carlson’s ethnic background?
I would like you and all the others here who use this bunk argument that we need more and more people to answer these questions:

How many are enough?


When will it end?


It seems like this is always the left's argument - we need more and more and more and more labor, that never ends.


Well, when we are two billion people in America will you people say enough ? When we're 5 billion? When will enough be enough?


You people can never answer that question.

 
Old 06-12-2021, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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How many are enough?


When will it end?

It seems like this is always the left's argument - we need more and more and more and more labor, that never ends.


Well, when we are two billion people in America will you people say enough ? When we're 5 billion? When will enough be enough?


You people can never answer that question.
Huh?

You argued earlier in the thread that the government should incentive Americans to have more kids, I’m guessing to ultimately produce more workers.

You appear to be of two minds here.

Wouldn’t increasing American family size to three, four, five+ kids have the same results with regard to population?
Or is that somehow different?
 
Old 06-12-2021, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81 View Post
You need to be more clear on what the hell you're going on about.

And no, I'm not watching any stupid Tucker Carlson videos.
That kind of attitude is part of the problem. You don't agree with the messenger so you're not even going to listen to the video to try to consider the point being made. It's a shame too because although it's highly unlikely you'll agree with his overall point you'd probably agree with the examples he shows. I'm not suggesting you or anyone else should agree with the video but at least watch it to understand the clear difference between his VOTER "replacement theory" argument he's making and the racist white "replacement theory" argument actual white supremacists make.

That Tucker Carlson video explains it better than I or anyone else in this thread could but because you hate the messenger you won't even bother to consider or debate his point. The point Tucker is making about immigration being used to "replace" Americans has nothing to do with so called "replacement theory" and everything to do with importing new voters from countries that traditionally vote for Democrats.

Tucker makes the argument that Democrats realized many years ago that their policies aren't popular enough with a large enough majority of American voters to guarantee electoral success in elections. He argues that rather than try to win over these Americans through better policy proposals Democrats decided it would be easier to push mass immigration and even encourage open borders and mass illegal immigration from countries more likely to vote for Democrats to dilute and eventually eliminate the voting power or American voters who don't reliably vote for them. And all this is done without any regard for the strain these millions of new migrants put on government resources and the job market for Americans.

The single best point he makes though is how the Democrat's push for mass immigration and open borders has nothing to do with compassion and EVERYTHING to do with gaining and consolidating political power with new reliable voters. His comment about how Democrats would be declaring a national emergency and demand a wall be built by tomorrow if tens of thousands of migrants from Poland (which tend to vote heavily Republican) were amassing at the southern border
 
Old 06-12-2021, 09:09 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by Kavalier View Post
As another poster pointed out, you can't get one without the other.


The predominate race of Americans WAS 90% - vastly majority white.


So, if one were to replace them (for whatever reason - to get cheaper labor or people who will work for less pay), you were likely going to replace white people with non-white people. So, maybe race wasn't the predominate reason (though there are books that have been written that indicate that's the main reason), but at the same time it can be the de facto reason.
Do you see the declining majority level of whites in America as a concern?
 
Old 06-12-2021, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
Huh?

You argued earlier in the thread that the government should incentive Americans to have more kids, I’m guessing to ultimately produce more workers.

You appear to be of two minds here.

Wouldn’t increasing American family size to three, four, five+ kids have the same results with regard to population?
Or is that somehow different?
Can you come to a reasoned, sober and clear conclusion as to healthy national growth? And if so, shouldn't you be able to come to a number as to how many babies Americans should be having to stay at a healthy growth level?


I always hear from leftists that "Americans aren't having children, so we must keep importing them"; then in the next sentence often a liberal will shriek about how the climate is in the gravest danger (while simultaneously say we need to keep importing millions - and in turn pollute America more)


Can you tell me how many will be enough? Will 500,000,000 American be enough? A billion? Ten billion?


You guys can never answer that.

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Do you see the declining majority level of whites in America as a concern?
Every nation on earth that isn't reproducing at replacement levels - every one of their leaders on the globe - view that as a problem. Why should we import people when we should be advocating that Americans have more children? Explain yourself.
 
Old 06-12-2021, 09:22 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Restate and try your poll again

makes no logical sense
 
Old 06-12-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by Kavalier View Post
...Every nation on earth that isn't reproducing at replacement levels - every one of their leaders on the globe - view that as a problem. Why should we import people when we should be advocating that Americans have more children? Explain yourself.
That does nothing to answer the question asked. Answer my question, then I'll answer yours.
 
Old 06-12-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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Before the Europeans came the population of North America was this:



Fast forward a few hundred years.

 
Old 06-12-2021, 09:32 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Originally Posted by mascoma View Post
Before the Europeans came the population of North America was this:



Fast forward a few hundred years.
That’s what unlimited immigration does to the people there before them.
 
Old 06-12-2021, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Originally Posted by Kavalier View Post
How many are enough?


When will it end?


It seems like this is always the left's argument - we need more and more and more and more labor, that never ends.


Well, when we are two billion people in America will you people say enough ? When we're 5 billion? When will enough be enough?


You people can never answer that question.
Whenever people stop expecting others to grow their retirement funds. Whenever we clean up manufacturing and bring it back onshore. Whenever we don’t have to import energy. Then maybe the powers that be will stop importing labor. Our entire economy is predicated on exponential growth on a finite planet. It’s producing a cataclysm that I’ll get to witness in my lifetime.
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