Only 3% of jobs posted on Tennessee's website offer more than $20,000 per year (generations, suspect)

[andywire]

Originally Posted by Buckeye77

on the internet, we are all 1%ers. And nobody knows you are a dog.

Yup. I got beachfront property on the moon, and a toll bridge making me a nice side income in the Sahara desert. If OP is part of the 1%, than I'm part of the .1%

Originally Posted by paracord

Democrat voters, on average, make less than Republican voters.

The poorer you are, the more you vote Dem. The richer you are, the more you vote republican. Democrats win the "sub 50k" income demographic by 10 points + in every presidential election.

I think you have it backwards, friend.

But the super rich elites (the kind the lefties really envy and hate) seem to overwhelmingly support democrats... Since democrats do such a good job of putting their competition out of business.

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by beb0p

If there is one thing liberals can learn from conservatives, it's how to live on $20,000 or less a year. Hats off to you guys. I can't even cover my property tax and insurance with $20k.

Buy any standards, those are low salaries.


However, it's also very inexpensive to live in Tennessee. You can buy a small but decent home in the state for just $40,000, and a nice home for under $100,000.

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by Kracer

Look it up, the dollar is worth more in TN that any other state.

TN is not NYC, one size does not fit all!

Dems thinks in terms of extremes and cannot grasp degrees of an issue... even their economists who were so wrong regarding their predictions about trump' impact on the economy

I just looked at one of those web sites with a cost of living calculator. It said the CoL was only 40% higher in Sacramento County, CA than Madison County, TN, but the housing prices are like 300% higher.

[Chuckity]

Originally Posted by 2mares

I dont understand your response. How do you know if the over 200K jobs listed contain part time summer jobs and what would it have to do with the posts in this thread?

Did you even read the thread?

The reason that only 3% of jobs offer more than 20K isn't because they're part time.

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by Chuckity

Did you even read the thread?

The reason that only 3% of jobs offer more than 20K isn't because they're part time.

Jobs4TN has job postings for every skill level, in every part of the state. While there are more than 257,000 jobs currently posted on the site, that number does not account for many employers in the state who post their job openings on other sites or by other methods. We are focused on helping Tennesseans find meaningful employment.

From the OPs link, I wonder if he read his own link?

[johnnytang24]

Originally Posted by BoBromhal

you win the "didn't read beyond what I was spoonfed" award for the day.

A job that provides an hourly wage - doesn't fall in that 3%.
A job listing that doesn't mention specific salary - doesn't fall in that 3%

Just the first page is loaded with $12+/hr jobs. And offering 40 hr employment. At 50 weeks, that would be ... $24,000.

Those exclusions are so painfully dishonest everyone should dismiss the lying politicians, regardless of politics.


Of course, that's not what we'll see, but one can hope.

[FatBob96]

Originally Posted by beb0p

If there is one thing liberals can learn from conservatives, it's how to live on $20,000 or less a year. Hats off to you guys. I can't even cover my property tax and insurance with $20k.



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All this tells me is that there's a lot of opportunity in Tennessee.

OP......the trick is to not STAY entry level for your entire life.

That's how people without a degree work their way from entry level positions to middle class incomes.

Patience, hard work and putting in your time to gain experience and make yourself more valuable to employers.

You don't deserve 50k for still being wet behind the ears and showing up on your first day.

[Hemlock140]

Our state minimum wage is $13.50, so anyone full-time makes at least $26,000, however the median family income here in WA state is $95,000. Like Tennessee, we still have a lot of jobs available that pay too little to live on, despite the high median, caused by cities like Sammamish at $168,000, Redmond $124,000, and both Seattle and Bellevue at $112,000. All of those cities have fast food workers, hotel room cleaning staff, and restaurant dish washers who somehow manage.

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by beb0p

Only 3% of jobs posted on Tennessee's website offer more than $20,000 per year

Wow, what a wonderful propaganda and disinformation thread.

Let's examine FoxNews propaganda first.

"The federal poverty line for a family of three is just under $22,000"

The propaganda and disinformation there is that the federal poverty level is the weighted average of the 48 poverty levels of the 48 lower States (Alaska and Hawai'i are omitted as statistical outliers.)

The federal poverty level is greater than the Tennessee State poverty level, so Fox lied.

The other propaganda point is the website -- jobs4TN or something -- is voluntary.

Employers are [generally] not obligated to post jobs there, so the website is hardly representative of the number, type and wage of jobs in Tennessee.

I say "generally" because most States have laws that if you receive State tax-dollars, certain jobs have to be posted there.

Example: Environmental engineering firm with Tennessee State contracts. The firm may have to post certain types of jobs, like the grunts engaged in lead/asbestos abatement, but not have to post certain other jobs, like salaried, degreed or semi-professional positions.

What we have here, in terms of statistics, is called "response bias."

That's why polls conducted asking viewers or listeners or readers to call in, log in or whatever and vote on "the question of the day" are unreliable because they suffer massively from response bias.

Now....I'm gonna teach you something the Liberals who ran your school failed to teach you.

Yes, 44,000 is less than 100,000.

But -- and this is key -- when you put that "$" in front of a number it is a game-changer.

Now, $44,000 can be less than, equal to or even greater than $100,000.

If you don't understand why, you should seriously consider giving your high school diploma back.

The Cost-of-Living varies wildly around the US. Why don't we ask your government how widely?

Let's say you and I apply for HUD Section 8 housing benefits so that tax-payers will subsidize our rent.

You get $1,401/month in Social Security benefits.

I get a Social Security benefit of $2,788/month, plus a pension of $1,878/month, for a total of $4,666/month.

HUD denies your claim for Section 8 benefits on the basis that you earn way too much freaking money.

HUD approves my claim for Section 8 benefits because I don't earn enough money.

Let us review again: $1,401 is too much money, while $4,666 is not enough money.

We can quantify those extremes in terms of wage rates:

$26.92/hour - $6.93/hour = $19.99/hour

That is how widely the Cost-of-Living varies across America.

How is that even possible? I just told you why. Just like in some areas of the US, $40,000 = $100,000 or $40,000 > $100,000 so it is that in some parts of the US $1,400/month > $4,600/month.

In some areas of the US, $30,000 = $100,000.

You have a choice:

1) an IT job in Cincinnati paying $44,000/year
2) the same IT job in White Plains paying $100,000/year

Which job pays more? If you said $100,000 you'd be wrong and you'll suffer for it.

The $44,000/year job pays $4,000 more a year.

At $40,000/year you have the same size house, same number of rooms, same brands of electronics and furniture, same brands of clothing and shoes, you both have 2 cars that are the same make, model and year (but probably different colors), you both eat out, go to sporting events and concerts and do other things.

The only difference is, you need just $40,000 in Cincinnati to do the same thing as someone in White Plains (NJ) earning $100,000 and you got $4,000 extra per year to play with.

I went through this a few years back on the Ohio forum with rock-brain who was convinced his wife was gonna take a huge pay-cut in teaching jobs.

He was stupid to understand that $42,000 > $68,000.

In fact, at $42,000/year, his wife would be getting a $6,000 pay raise, meaning they'd be living like she made $74,000/year.

I asked what county, and then posted some links to houses for sale and property tax rates and that was it: GAME OVER.

She was gonna take that job come hell or high-water, even if she had to divorce rock-brain to do it.

I don't doubt that $20,000/year is probably living like a pauper in San Fransisco, but then San Fran is the exception and not the rule.

And, just because you can't live on $20,000/year doesn't mean no one else can.

[lchoro]

Originally Posted by beb0p

If there is one thing liberals can learn from conservatives, it's how to live on $20,000 or less a year. Hats off to you guys. I can't even cover my property tax and insurance with $20k.



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A lot of the job listings are scams so agencies can collect resume's or qualify for foreign worker visa. The obvious sign is where the years of experience and type of skills don't match the low salary being offered.