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Old 06-16-2021, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by anononcty View Post
What was the intent when they raised the retail theft limit to $950 again?
Inflation.

Same reason 33 states increased their thresholds to more than $950.

Texas and Wisconsin have the highest threshold @ $2500.
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:56 AM
 
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To avoid building more prisons and hiring corrections officers
No diff than the 33 states that established thresholds greater than $950.

Texas and Wisconsin are @ $2500.
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:59 AM
 
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Lefties on reddit always say prisons are overcrowded, that we need to let people go. Alright then, what do you want to do when crime rates and drug use go up?

I suppose they'll just raise prices of all products like hospitals do to pay for the uninsured... A stealth form of wealth redistribution. Closing the businesses is a better alternative to leftist policies gone too far.
What leftist policies?

33 states have higher thresholds than California.

Texas and Wisconsin have the highest thresholds @ $2500. nJ and Virginia have the lowest at $200.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:04 AM
 
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San Francisco is trying to recall the nutjob that made this possible.

If you guys really care so much about this, there are two campaigns happening now to recall Chesa Boudin. Feel free to donate to one or both.

Recall Chesa Boudin, District Attorney

Join the Effort to Recall District Attorney Chesa Boudin

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Made what possible?
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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Speaking of Walmart, there was one they built in Oakland near the Oakland airport. The "community" living near the Walmart location (mostly lower income/working class) protested the store. I put community in quotes because they were really outside forces not from the area (mainly from SF). Anyway, that Walmart didn't even open due to the lawsuits. The result? A couple hundred people were without new jobs, a big box store sits boarded up and empty near the entrance outsiders see when they arrive into Oakland, and the entire parking lot has been taking up by people sleeping in vehicles or tents (at least this was the case Spring 2020 so it's probably worse now). Would these people have protested if it was Target? Probably not which is baffling.

I wonder, if those people protesting for this store to close ever thought about what would be the effects of their "progressiveness".
In 2016, Walmart closed 269 out of nearly 5000 stores. Those closed were underperforming stores throughout the US. Oakland was one of them.

https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-wa...oses-its-doors
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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Most protests against Walmart opening are by their competition (via proxies) as well as any local unions etc.

I would expect that with the union labor at Krogers and perhaps other locations that they organized to keep Walmart out.

They kept Walmart out of Chicago for a *really* long time, the entrenched grocery interests knew whom to donate too and they were rewarded with semi-monopoly power for quite a while under one excuse or another.

I'm no big fan of Walmart but there is a lot of shady stuff that goes on between business and politics in cities so be alert to ALL of the bad actors.
There are now 8 Walmart’s in the city. 4 are super centers. 4 are markets.

The union representing both Jewel- Osco and Dominicks ( now closed) were indeed engaged by proxy to keep Walmart out of the city under the auspices of wages and benefits. Interestingly, the Walmart starting wage was and remains substantially higher than the Jewel- Osco wage. And there are no union dues.
One has a better shot at full time employment, thus benefits at Walmart, too.

Marianos ( now a Kroger sub) and union shop acquired many of the former Dominicks sites. Non management is part time without benefits. Starting wage cannot compete with Walmart.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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With all the retail store theft going on in California cityes (theft is apparently legal if it’s under $950.00), why not just turn your stores into warehouses and do delivery or curbside only? (for pre-paid online orders)

Think of the money they would save from theft, hiring cashiers, stockers would be minimal since they don’t have to do merchandising. They would only have to hire “shoppers” to fulfill orders. Granted, this would probably impact “impulse buys” but your savings would probably make up for that.

As for thieves, we could have “package” stores where they could go to get the basic commodities, much like the welfare groceries. That would be courtesy of the taxpayers just like welfare. No booze or frivolous stuff, but they won’t starve. And prices would not have to increase in retail if theft is eliminated. This is a win-win for everyone. We won’t have over-worked cashiers to deal with, and everyone could be safer not having to deal with derelicts out to cause problems.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Walgreens closed 17 stores in the last five years due to theft.

See story here: SF Walgreens – Man fills garbage bag with items off the shelf
Again, 33 states have higher thresholds for felony theft. Texas and Wisconsin threshold is $2500.

Regardless of threshold, retail in the midst of a substantial homeless area is more vulnerable to theft.

Walmart’s, regardless of location, seem to be more vulnerable to retail theft than most chains. Strategies to detect and prevent theft are variable by store.

A significant amount of retail theft is facilitated by retail employees, regardless of a store’s location or brand.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:37 AM
 
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I'm heading to CA soon. The relative I'm visiting told me to bring as much food and goods as I can. I'm camping.

She's very liberal and said prices are already rising. She blames this policy in part. Also suggests that businesses are taking advantage of that perception and hiking prices unnecessarily.
Grocery prices everywhere began rising last year during the worst of the pandemic.

There are thousands of micro economies in the US and prices are a huge variable.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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Inflation.

Same reason 33 states increased their thresholds to more than $950.

Texas and Wisconsin have the highest threshold @ $2500.
Theft or retail theft. Retail theft is still treated differently in some states frequently requiring an arrest and trip to the police station. They might be let go with a citation but that's the issue in SF because these thieves won't even experience handcuffs.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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A first time offender in California would go to jail for stealing $100 in makeup or $150 diapers?

They're paying now. Walgreens can't be the only business closing shop in many of these communities.

A criminal is a criminal. They can minimize and rationalize any way the want but the criminal is going to do what they want especially if they know there are little or consequences.

That dollar amount was probably put to vote because a VIP family member or friend and got caught so to minimize their actions they got the bill introduced to say see it's not a crime. Throw in pandering or progessive politicians this number got the support it needed to pass.

A thief is a thief. A thief is a criminal. Criminals left untouched will eventually escalate, increase or expand their criminal behavior. Which is basically what's happening now. Instead of trying to sneak a few items into their pockets now bring "shopping" bags.
In 2019, Walgreens closed 200 of nearly 10,000 stores as they undertook “ transformational cost management”.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...es/1937722001/

One can fill a script nearly everywhere but gas stations. Prescriptions by mail have also put a serious dent in the business.

As is too common in retail, brands tend to open new stores and eventually realize the market is too competitive to survive. Retail and employee theft is challenging everywhere. Some areas more so than others and not limited to low income communities.

It’s a curious thing to see what any store chooses to keep under lock and key, certain OTC meds, baby formula, some alcohol, some cosmetic products, cigs, etc.
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