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I completely agree. I think it's just being intellectually honest for Black communities not to feel like they were a part of the first Independence Day, because they weren't. And we don't have to feel threatened by that.
I grew up in the midwest and never heard of it until I starting mingling with Texans. Apparently it has been observed by black families in Texas for many, many years.
Anyway, to the extent that it celebrates the end of slavery in the US, it should be respected and celebrated. Our slavery past haunts us to this day like little else in our history.
I grew up in the midwest and never heard of it until I starting mingling with Texans. Apparently it has been observed by black families in Texas for many, many years.
Anyway, to the extent that it celebrates the end of slavery in the US, it should be respected and celebrated. Our slavery past haunts us to this day like little else in our history.
As long as they take away other holidays I will not celebrate this day.
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EVERYONE has opportunity if they make the effort.
This isn't about "opportunity" in the country.
July 4th is about celebrating the day when the Declaration of Independence Document was written. That's why we celebrate July 4, 1776.
That document follows, in part:
In Congress, July 4, 1776
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
Do you see that this document completely ignores the plight and bondage of Black people at the time? Basically, it's saying Black men in America aren't people. And expecting the descendants of slaves to celebrate this document is a little tone-deaf? Even kind of a slap in the face when Washington himself owned a large plantation run by slave labor?
I was just talking to my wife about this the other day.
Hopefully we just get to the point where businesses say "In addition to your vacation time, you get 12 "holidays" to spend as you see fit. There are no more company designated holidays."
You want Juneteenth off? Cool, take it. You want Yom Kippur off? Cool, it's yours. You want Christmas off? Great, you got it.
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I was just talking to my wife about this the other day.
Hopefully we just get to the point where businesses say "In addition to your vacation time, you get 12 "holidays" to spend as you see fit. There are no more company designated holidays."
You want Juneteenth off? Cool, take it. You want Yom Kippur off? Cool, it's yours. You want Christmas off? Great, you got it.
Solves that problem.
That's a great idea, except most everyone will be clambering for Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Years Day, etc. The holidays celebrated by the vast majority. And so there will be many working on Christmas Day because they were last to put in for vacation.
"Juneteenth" commemorates the emancipation of the slaves and the end of the Civil War. It's being celebrated on June 19.
The celebrators are a little late, though.
The Civil war ended, not on June 19, 1865, but on April 9, 1865, when Gen. Robert E. Lee formally surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant. It took a general more than two months to make it to Galveston, Texas n June 19, to announce the war's end.
And the slaves were emancipated either on that day (April 9, 1865), or on the day the 13th amendment was ratified (Dec. 6, 1865), or on the day Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation took effect (Jan. 1, 1863).
The Juneteenth-celebrators' hearts are in the right place. They are celebrating two extremely beneficial events, which deserve celebrating in every way. But they managed to miss every possible "correct" date for what they are celebrating, and wound up celebrating a date on which nothing in particular changed.
Our slavery past haunts us to this day like little else in our history.
Maybe if the leftists would stop shoving it in our faces at every opportunity, and just stopped talking about it, it wouldn't feel as if it had just ended yesterday, and it was all my fault.
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