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Old 06-15-2021, 07:42 PM
 
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Maybe if the leftists would stop shoving it in our faces at every opportunity, and just stopped talking about it, it wouldn't feel as if it had just ended yesterday, and it was all my fault.
Maybe if we had seriously listened, and considered the experiences of Black Americans, this would have been resolved a LONG time ago. "Shut up, we don't want to hear you" never solves anything. Just kicks it further down the road. And so we're still dealing with what hasn't been dealt with.
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Maybe if the leftists would stop shoving it in our faces at every opportunity, and just stopped talking about it, it wouldn't feel as if it had just ended yesterday, and it was all my fault.
That's not the leftists' intention. Their intention is make you feel like it NEVER ENDED AT ALL, and that it's all your fault.
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Maybe if we had seriously listened, and considered the experiences of Black Americans, this would have been resolved a LONG time ago. "Shut up, we don't want to hear you" never solves anything. Just kicks it further down the road. And so we're still dealing with what hasn't been dealt with.
So what exactly is there to deal with? "My ancestors were enslaved by your ancestors." Uh, sorry? I never enslaved anyone, and you were never enslaved by anyone. Wounds heal when they're left to heal, not when the scab is constantly picked at.
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:52 PM
 
Location: California
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I completely agree. I think it's just being intellectually honest for Black communities not to feel like they were a part of the first Independence Day, because they weren't. And we don't have to feel threatened by that.
I feel threatened by their behavior on the East Coast, MN, L.A., Portland and on and on for decades. They have had their "celebrating" without accountability for too long, if you want to be intellectually honest.
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:53 PM
 
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So what exactly is there to deal with? "My ancestors were enslaved by your ancestors." Uh, sorry? I never enslaved anyone, and you were never enslaved by anyone. Wounds heal when they're left to heal, not when the scab is constantly picked at.
Maybe deal with the thought that they might not want to celebrate the Declaration of Independence, that totally kicked them to the curb?

Wounds heal when they're cleaned out and not sewn up and left to fester.
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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We need to make Juneteenth an official national holiday. Hear me out.

Juneteenth represents the last day slavery was sanctioned in this nation. The message that slavery was no longer allowed arrived late to Texas and Juneteenth is when the Texas slaves were emancipated. We need to celebrate that we as a nation found our moral compass and Americans of other races sacrificed their lives to restore the rightful full personhood to those of African descent. Holidays come with benign education associated around the day, common celebration of triumph, and assimilation by the majority culture of some of the celebrated minority culture’s traditions. Juneteenth is based on a real event for American descendants of slaves to celebrate, not some made up holiday like Kwanza. I see Juneteenth as something my community needs, an acknowledgment of slavery and a national celebration of its ending. I think it could be a step towards healing.

Besides, who doesn’t like another excuse for a party?
I think with a unanimous Senate vote, you can rest assured that the House will vote and the Biden will sign it in the next 5 days. Whether that means this year the Fed gov't, etc manage to shut down - well, I imagine a holiday is one thing they can act quickly on.
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Old 06-15-2021, 07:57 PM
 
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I feel threatened by their behavior on the East Coast, MN, L.A., Portland and on and on for decades. They have had their "celebrating" without accountability for too long, if you want to be intellectually honest.
I DO want to be intellectually honest. In the past 2 decades, many young members of the Black community have wreaked havoc on cities in protest and in anger.

That pales in comparison to the 4 centuries when their ancestors were abused.

Payback is hell.
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Old 06-15-2021, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Maybe you were not taught about the significance of this day in school.

It’s been a Texas state holiday since 1980.

It’s a holiday for most state employees, everywhere.

Today the Senate UNANIMOUSLY passed a resolution establishing 6/19 as a holiday for Federal workers.
really? Since before 2020? really?
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Old 06-15-2021, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Juneteenth is a special day obviously here in Texas, and rightfully so in my opinion.

Americans deserve more holidays. They work too damn hard. I’m all for making Juneteenth a holiday. It is culturally and historically significant.
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Old 06-15-2021, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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I DO want to be intellectually honest. In the past 2 decades, many young members of the Black community have wreaked havoc on cities in protest and in anger.

That pales in comparison to the 4 centuries when their ancestors were abused.

Payback is hell.
Segregation, race war, or genocide; that's the grim future we get to look forward to if this attitude continues. It might help calm things down a bit if the left didn't keep bleating about "systemic racism" and "white privilege" all the time.
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