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I know right? Are we now to go back and dredge up ancient history on all countries and tribes so we can have grievances over things in the past? Because I don’t think any country or tribe will come out smelling like a rose. These idiots make me sick. What the heck is the end game here?
Socialism/communism and the destruction of the West. The seeds for this dissent were sown by our communist enemies long ago and are now growing vigorously.
I know right? Are we now to go back and dredge up ancient history on all countries and tribes so we can have grievances over things in the past? Because I don’t think any country or tribe will come out smelling like a rose. These idiots make me sick. What the heck is the end game here?
There isn't an "end game." What was the end game to basically make up imaginary "facts" about the Alamo, or *pick your subject* and then amplify them and then memorialize them for so long, despite the actual historical record being there for everyone to see?
None of the points you make in this post make the version a lie.
Texas was settled by immigrants from the USA who tended ignore the conditions of settlement. They were in fact illegal immigrants.
It is a lie through omission.
And it is no better than the version they are rebutting. They aren't truth seekers they are political narrative shapers; propagandists.
Funny how if someone comes in legally, but then overstay a visa, etc the left says they aren't illegal immigrants that they just don't have the right papers, no one can be illegal etc, and then in this case the left is eager to point out that they had shifted from legal immigrants to illegal by doing things like refusing to become Catholic.
Socialism/communism and the destruction of the West. The seeds for this dissent were sown by our communist enemies long ago and are now growing vigorously.
So stop dissenting about historical truths [read: clinging to historical lies] so you'll feel better, perhaps we won't be so tribal and won't let those commies in.
And it is no better than the version they are rebutting. They aren't truth seekers they are political narrative shapers; propagandists.
Funny how if someone comes in legally, but then overstay a visa, etc the left says they aren't illegal immigrants that they just don't have the right papers, no one can be illegal etc, and then in this case the left is eager to point out that they had shifted from legal immigrants to illegal by doing things like refusing to become Catholic.
Those settlers were supposed to do surveys as a condition of the land they got. Most didn't
Even that version from Yahoo is a lie. It ignores that Mexico had lots of internal strife, a lack of freedom of religion, and a heavy handed oppressive government. There were constant outbreaks of rebels all over Mexico (then and for the next half century plus forward) and the majority of local Mexicans in Texas sided with the American Immigrants who had been invited in to the country thinking that gaining population in the barren sparsely populated area known as Texas would deter European conquest.
The media is essentially saying let's replace BS with newer BS that favors the cult of victimhood.
People don't realize that there were multiple secession attempts across Mexico. Had those Mexican states been successful, Mexico would look far different today. Texas just happen to be the only state that won.
Those settlers were supposed to do surveys as a condition of the land they got. Most didn't
And they weren't suppose to bring slaves, they were suppose to become Catholic, and were suppose to be loyal to Santa Ana. Almost none met all of the requirements.
Doesn't change the fact that the Yahoo version lies about there not being a heavy handed government and lies through omission on all of the other things I already pointed out.
And they weren't suppose to bring slaves, they were suppose to become Catholic, and were suppose to be loyal to Santa Ana. Almost none met all of the requirements.
Doesn't change the fact that the Yahoo version lies about there not being a heavy handed government and lies through omission on all of the other things I already pointed out.
Don't know anything about yahoo. But am reading 'Forget the Alamo'.
I’m surprised the article didn’t mention, Slavery. As a lack of Slavery in Mexico was also a motivator for independence. As others have pointed out though, it does gloss over the fact that as a territory their wet elimits on what Texans could do and even though they were invited into Mexico, their were plenty of disagreements off the bat. But no the Texas Revolution purposefully paints the “bad guys” as Heroes, but it recognizes their bad guys at the same time.
Pretty much the only reasonable post in this thread - when you at least know slavery was an issue.
To understand the History of Texas, you first need to understand the History of Mexico
AND to view the Maps of 1821-1835 Mexico. Notice that the map includes a lot of the southern & western USA.
Texas was a borderland of Mexico with US Immigrants welcomed. Santa Anna was elected President of Mexico after the Spanish/Mexican Civil War. He ran on the Platform of Federation, which the Tejanos and Texas settlers supported. After his election, Santa Anna did what many do …. Authoritarian Government. Mexican Tejanos & US Settlers objected and Texas delayed Independence from Mexico. Santa Anna took charge of the Army and led an invasion on Texas. Long story, but he lost. One of the greatest hero’s of the Texas Independence was Juan Seguin & his raiders …. All Tejanos.
Texans know their history, we don’t need a writer from Vanity Fair in New York City to re-write it for us - with the help of a Democratic Strategist eith a background in Russian Studies to help the new-new-new History of Texas. Looks like a new Political 2022-2024 plan. It will fail, they always fail.
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Don't know anything about yahoo. But am reading 'Forget the Alamo'.
Good for you. After you read the book that is supposed to turn Tejanos against the USA and all white Texans - check some other documents and books. One of the best ways to rally Texans of all backgrounds is for the Socialist Leftists to try and irradiate our History and all that makes us TEXANS.
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