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Old 06-18-2021, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Again you have to be DISHONEST. Nobody says Climate Change is a hoax. Climate changes NATURALLY. Always has, always will.
Yes over thousands and millions of years, not in a century.
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Old 06-18-2021, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Again you have to be DISHONEST. Nobody says Climate Change is a hoax. Climate changes NATURALLY. Always has, always will.
Sure the climate changes naturally. It’s also been changing because of massive amounts of greenhouse gasses added to the atmosphere by people. Look up greenhouse gasses if you are unsure of the definition, it’s a gas that contributes to trapping additional heat within the atmosphere. There are multiple inputs and processes which affect the climate.
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Old 06-18-2021, 06:45 PM
 
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Humans putting heat trapping gases into the atmosphere is trapping more heat. Why can’t republicans grasp such a simple concept?
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Old 06-18-2021, 06:52 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The concern is not that it is the "new normal".


The concern is that we are back to normal in the West.


Read this book on the climate history of California and the West over the past 10,000 years. The last hundred years appear to be much WETTER than the previous 10,000 years.


https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520...-without-water


Don't read gibberish in USA Today from journalists that have NEVER even taken ONE science class!!!
when the water runs out, we'll see a real crisis.
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Old 06-18-2021, 07:24 PM
 
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That is according to the following:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/7721768002/

If it does become the new normal, what do you think might be the result both in people moving elsewhere, and what other effects do you foresee, either politically or how that would affect U.S. society?



P.S. In related news, at least four states have ordered evacuations in some areas due to fires -- and it is only mid-June! https://weather.com/en-IN/india/envi...es-western-usa
Every state and every nation has winter and summer. It is now summer in the northern hemisphere, such that temps are higher than winter (that might be a shocker to liberals).

If it is a big issue to people, they should look to move above the Arctic Circle or establish a colony in Antarctica.
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Old 06-18-2021, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Every state and every nation has winter and summer. It is now summer in the northern hemisphere, such that temps are higher than winter (that might be a shocker to liberals).

If it is a big issue to people, they should look to move above the Arctic Circle or establish a colony in Antarctica.
It's a 125-year-worst drought. It's not simply "oh it's summer, it's supposed to be hot" thing.
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Old 06-18-2021, 07:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Humans putting heat trapping gases into the atmosphere is trapping more heat. Why can’t republicans grasp such a simple concept?
Liberals, on the other hand, grasp such simple concepts readily.

Mostly because their minds can't - or won't - grasp the rest of the subject, such as:

1.) Despite nearly 50 years of trying, no one has ever established what increase in CO2 will cause a certain amount of change in temperature... or if the amount we are seeing will increase temperatures by even a barely-detectable amount.

2.) While CO2 that absorbs solar radiation can raise the temperature, CO2 also reflects incoming solar radiation - that is, it prevents a significant amount of solar radiation from ever getting into most of the atmosphere, thus preventing much of the greenhouse effect, and contributing to the cooling of the atmosphere.

3.) Green plants commonly absorb CO2, break it down, and emit oxygen. That's where most of the oxygen in our atmosphere comes from. If the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere increases, this presents more "food" to the plants and encourages their growth... resulting in turn in their breaking down even more CO2 and producing more oxygen. It's a natural feedback mechanism that prevents increases in CO2 from lasting very long.

4.) Water naturally absorbs CO2, producing carbonic acid (one of the ingredients of "acid rain") and other compounds. With the earth's surface 75% covered in water, the oceans provide a huge buffer for keeping CO2 under control and stopping it from rising very much.

5.) There are other complicating factors, but you get the idea.

Liberals constantly complain that normal people "can't grasp such a simple concept" as CO2 trapping heat. That's because the effect of CO2 on the earth's atmosphere is anything but simple - a concept well understood by normal people, but rejected and seldom comprehended by the simple minds of the liberals.
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Old 06-18-2021, 07:40 PM
 
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It's a 125-year-worst drought. It's not simply "oh it's summer, it's supposed to be hot" thing.

Scary climate change happening now with mega drought brewing...fire season almost year round now in certain areas...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climat..._United_States
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Old 06-19-2021, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Triple digit temps in western U.S. could be the new normal


They say that every time it gets hot in Calif, AZ, NV, etc.

I guess they just love the drama, or something.

So they try to pretend it's news, or unusual, or something that doesn't happen pretty much every summer out here.
They're not just saying it in Arizona. Triple digits are actually becoming common, or something very close to common.

Arizona is an extremely popular retirement state for ice-bound old Idahoans, and has always been so. But since ca. 2010, increasingly more Idaho snow birds I know have sold their Arizona winter house and have chosen to winter in their home state instead.
Idaho winters are still cold, but not so bitter as in the 1980s-1990s,and the winters are shorter. The seasonal warmth of the rest of the year has increased.

There is such a thing as too hot. It's increasing in hot states and cold states alike.
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Old 06-19-2021, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Yes over thousands and millions of years, not in a century.
How do you know for certain how long it takes for the earth to warm or cool?

There's plenty of geologic evidence both can occur much faster than a century's worth of time.
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