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Old 06-18-2021, 10:02 AM
 
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Isn’t CRT largely at the college/university level? Wouldn’t exposure to it be dependent of course choice? Sorry, trying to understand the huge emphasis on this.
Nope. The anti-white, pro-black approach is making its way into the public school system of liberal counties. There’s been some pushback now that little whites are coming home and telling Mommy and Daddy this they’re all evil racists.

Of course, the liberals are up in arms that any parents would push back, and they’re making the consequences severe....everything from doxxing them to hacking into their computers. The punishment for deviating from leftist policies is fast and furious.
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Old 06-18-2021, 10:29 AM
 
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Most people regardless of race make racist decisions on a daily basis without even thinking about it.

If you have made fun of unusual names in the African American community

If you tense up or avoid walking down a street with a black man dressed in urban clothing

If you have suggested all people have equal opportunities today regardless of race

If you believe the civil war was over state's rights and not more specifically rights of new states to become slave states
Well...you might be racist.
White people have no idea what it is like to be black or hispanic and all of the terrible things that person may have dealt with throughout their life.

To pretend we are all equal and the same is the highest level of ignorance
Maybe that’s your “lived experience,” you only speak for yourself after all. Lived experiences don’t take into account the mental situation with the person looking to extract resources, that is after all why you virtue signal.

But CRT isn’t about that and never has been. Angela Harris can tell you what Marx, CT, CRT all have in common:

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"Marx famously wrote, “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.”4 Critical theory differs from pure philosophy in its motivation to provoke change, and thus it necessarily traffics in the emotions.5 Challenging power relations, as critical theorists love to do, means provoking anger, disquiet, anxiety, and even fear in those with a settled understanding of who they are and where they belong. But critical theorists are motivated not only by the desire to provoke and unsettle,6 but also by the desire to provoke compassion. Stowe can justly be criticized for implying that “feeling right” is sufficient. Compassion, however, is not the same as pity; it is the desire to relieve another’s suffering, the desire to act.7 Compassion, that is to say, may sometimes begin in critique.

In this Essay, I am interested in the relationship among ideology, ideological critique, and emotion. I argue that the ideological critique produced by Marx in the nineteenth century and by critical legal theorists in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries undertakes not only to persuade our minds but also to rally our emotions. To accomplish this, critical theorists show us that ideology is already a technique of emotion management. Ideology makes suffering invisible and compassion inappropriate by assuring us that the status quo is natural, normal, and necessary. Ideological critique, in turn, reveals the suffering beneath the bland façade of ideological concepts like “capital” and “property.” It tries to persuade us, moreover, that this suffering is unjust and unnecessary: that politics and not nature is its source, and that we should act to relieve it.

Like Marx, critical race theorists therefore want us to care about the subordinated.8 Yet several pitfalls await. First, caring must be connected to moral outrage to produce a commitment to action. Caring without outrage is only merely pity, an emotion that requires no action, only the feeling of sympathy. Critical theorists must strive to cultivate indignation as well as caring in their readers’ hearts. A second pitfall is related to the first. Observing the suffering of others may provoke compassion, but it may also reinforce a sense of their inferiority, their need for our charity.

Conversely, a politics rooted in displays of suffering threatens to become “therapeutic,” a politics in which the subordinated seek only public recognition of their wounds and a sense of moral superiority rather than the transformation of social relations.9 Third, critical theory must simultaneously convince us that injustice is everywhere, and that change is possible. Critical race theory, for example, takes the position that racism pervades our institutions, our beliefs, and our everyday practices.10 Critical race theorists thus reject the view that racism can easily be rooted out of our lives. Yet to join the battle seems to require some optimism that improvement is possible. Critical race theory thus walks, along with its readers, a thin line between hope and despair."
http://blogs.law.columbia.edu/abolit...5hveh70bTp3Ths

You all keep trying to repackage it up as if it was something else. Inside is a hot mess, something nasty AF. Need I remind you the Trojan Horse was an act of war.

This is going to continue to be pounded into the psyche of the country till everyone understands the full ramifications of the Department of Education using psychology to instill a different ideology in people’s children. A neo-Marxist one at that.

“In reality, they're not after me they're after you. I'm just in the way.”

~Trump~

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Old 06-18-2021, 10:57 AM
 
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Isn’t CRT largely at the college/university level? Wouldn’t exposure to it be dependent of course choice? Sorry, trying to understand the huge emphasis on this.
It’s not just schools:

https://youtu.be/UFf8Vs6VbhY

Let’s see how an ideology that’s sole purpose is critique of ideology to invoke emotion, rage and compassion (like what a mama bear has when she’s protecting her cubs type compassion) works out in the church! What could possibly go wrong?

SBC is getting its “racial reckoning” right now and what it’s doing is exactly what it would expect to do since its purpose is political in nature as you can see from the quote above from Angela Harris.
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Old 06-18-2021, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Isn’t CRT largely at the college/university level? Wouldn’t exposure to it be dependent of course choice? Sorry, trying to understand the huge emphasis on this.
No, it's not just at the college level. It's at every level of education, starting with Pre-K.

It was "just in the colleges" 10-20 years ago. Now, those kids are teaching the next generation what they learned.

This is why conservatives make a big deal about things related to education which liberals think is small potatoes. The conservatives are looking toward the future, while the liberals are only interested in the now.

The conservatives were absolutely right about this, and we're paying the price today for the ignorance of liberals yesterday. It might be worth considering some of their other warnings and objections, too.
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Old 06-18-2021, 11:38 AM
 
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Senator FERGUSON. Then you are of the opinion that the Communists use these ideals, these humanitarian causes, the evils that are among men, for their own purpose rather than just curing the particular evil; is that right?
Mrs. DODD. That is absolutely right. And I discovered it to be so when I became the legislative representative of the Communist Party.
When I went into the apparatus at Twelfth Street as a legislative representative, I thought that my job was to fight for good housing, milk, problems, the question of schools, and so on. I found that within the Communist Party there wasn't even a file on any of these social problems; that there wasn't any cumulative wisdom on the thing; that almost any program which you would pluck from the air which was popular at the moment was the thing you supported; that they weren't interested in carrying through on any of these problems; that these problems were important only as long as there was a group of dissatisfied people to whom this issue was important.
But as soon as that died down, then they were no longer interested in that issue.
Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, 1952-53
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Old 06-18-2021, 11:46 AM
 
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Most people regardless of race make racist decisions on a daily basis without even thinking about it.

If you have made fun of unusual names in the African American community

If you tense up or avoid walking down a street with a black man dressed in urban clothing

If you have suggested all people have equal opportunities today regardless of race

If you believe the civil war was over state's rights and not more specifically rights of new states to become slave states
Well...you might be racist.
White people have no idea what it is like to be black or hispanic and all of the terrible things that person may have dealt with throughout their life.

To pretend we are all equal and the same is the highest level of ignorance
Almost all on here against CRT constantly are white...wonder why that is?

It seems that Green Mariner and Nigerian Nightmare are the only 2 of African descent on here...I welcome and generally agree with their take as a Caucasian guy.

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Old 06-18-2021, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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What exactly is it?

I mean is there a website with bullet-list points or a Cliff's Notes version to show what it is?
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Old 06-18-2021, 12:05 PM
 
Location: My house
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I reject the MSM/academia/dnc definition of racism because it intentionally or unintentionally hurts real victims of racism by overuse of the word which leads to desensitization and dismissal of actual racism. That is my theory, and theories are considered fact so therefore this is my fact.
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Old 06-18-2021, 12:44 PM
 
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What exactly is it?

I mean is there a website with bullet-list points or a Cliff's Notes version to show what it is?
What are the chances the US has changed its geopolitical strategy or that this push for a change in ideology from Obama/Biden is related to that strategy?
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Old 06-18-2021, 01:12 PM
 
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Don't use their language. If we define the issue as "critical race theory," they'll just change the name, and all the effort will have been wasted.

Go after their overt racism. Call it out for what it is, without using their terms.

The Left is very adept at defining the discussion, especially the language used to have it. Fight the urge to engage in the discussion on their terms, and enter it on your own terms, using your own language.

Believing that people are somehow oppressors or oppressed based solely on the color of their skin is a racist belief. Believing that some debt is owed to or by anyone based solely on the color of their skin is a racist belief. Teaching anything resembling these beliefs to our children is abuse.
Great post. In addition to their overt, even obsessive racism, also call out their habitual lying. They are pathological liars and that is not an exaggeration. Further, they are all about tearing down and destroying.

Nothing about what the SJW/BLM/CRT/ANTIFA Democrat left is pushing here has anything to do with improving or solving race problems in our country. On the contrary, what they are pushing weaponizes race and perpetuates racism in our society - forever. That should be called out as often as possible as well.

These people are trying to institutionalize racist hatred and animosity in the schools as the core values of our nation. It is just plain evil.
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