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"Meritocracy is racist," and admissions should be blind based on random selection to ensure diversity. Things like test scores and grades are a form of white supremacy (ignore Asians do better).
If we start having doctors selected at random, we should start spelling diversity like this: dieversity.
What the leftists are trying to hide is the fact that people succeed due to traits such as intelligence, motivation, discipline, willingness to delay gratification, and a strong work ethic. They want everyone “equal,” and the only way to do that is by suppressing the talents and abilities of those who are superior in these traits.
It really IS the opposite of what America stands for (or stood for), and why America had been such a great country.
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I don't think anyone's going to be doing this, maybe except for the fewest number of private liberal colleges.
Colleges want to be able to pick, for themselves, their student body.
In Texas we've suffered with the top 10% rule, and the universities here have fought it, especially the flagship university, University of Texas. The top 10% of any public high school in Texas has automatic admission to any public college, and UT has successfully brought their obligation down to I believe the top 6% academically, and limited the absolute numbers of automatic admissions. Because the top 10% of many high schools are not college material.
Colleges and Universities get their reputations and status from the success of their graduates - no college is going to want to draw out a random pool of students and take their chances those graduates might be successful.
Additionally, if you do that, the chances are HIGH that you will have a freshman class the size you want but the graduating classes will be very small because the students can't hack college curriculum.
Not going to happen, no need to worry about it.
I do agree, however, that standardized testing may not be the best way to choose a student population. It shows who's got the ABILITY to succeed, but doesn't predict which students are hard workers and will go to class and earn good grades. In fact, some schools severely ding a student who has a very high SAT but mediocre grades, because they're lazy and are likely not to succeed in college.
I don't think anyone's going to be doing this, maybe except for the fewest number of private liberal colleges.
Colleges want to be able to pick, for themselves, their student body.
In Texas we've suffered with the top 10% rule, and the universities here have fought it, especially the flagship university, University of Texas. The top 10% of any pubic high school in Texas has automatic admission to any public college, and UT has successfully brought their obligation down to I believe the top 6% academically, and limited the absolute numbers of automatic admissions. Because the top 10% of many high schools are not college material.
Colleges and Universities get their reputations and status from the success of their graduates - no college is going to want to draw out a random pool of students and take their chances those graduates might be successful.
Additionally, if you do that, the chances are HIGH that you will have a freshman class the size you want but the graduating classes will be very small because the students can't hack college curriculum.
Not going to happen, no need to worry about it.
Good response. However, leftists for years have talked about doing away with grades, race based grading, and promoting grade inflation. That is your only weak point in the response. If schools do adopt this they are likely on this other leftist path.
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What the leftists are trying to hide is the fact that people succeed due to traits such as intelligence, motivation, discipline, willingness to delay gratification, and a strong work ethic. They want everyone “equal,” and the only way to do that is by suppressing the talents and abilities of those who are superior in these traits.
It really IS the opposite of what America stands for (or stood for), and why America had been such a great country.
Well, we also have a "diversity" green card lottery. So it's not that unthinkable. The admissions lottery may actually hurt black students. Currently they are given special considerations for admission (disadvantaged background). But with the lottery they're like everyone else.
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