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Old 06-22-2021, 12:41 PM
 
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I just want to know why they still insist on the label of "amateur." They get paid professional coaching, nutritionists and sports medicine specialists, and tons of recognition. "Amateur" is what happens when the family challenges both sides to a game of touch football at Thanksgiving. Nothing "amateur" about these athletes.
They get tuition, room and board, meals, study aids, blah blah -- the perks of being a Division 1 athlete costs some coin.
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Old 06-22-2021, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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That's the sport that most colleges rely on. Do you think UGA is known for its soccer team? Alabama for its baseball team? Penn State for its swim team? No! All football (or American hand egg as I like to call it).
Once you get beyond about the top 40 bowl division football programs, those teams are usually money losers that drag down the rest of the athletic department budget.

The really big revenue surplus sport is men’s basketball where small roster sizes and decent to excellent sized crowds mean that you don’t even have to get a share from qualifying for the NCAA tournament to cover expenses for the entire program and more.
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Old 06-22-2021, 11:45 PM
 
Location: New York City
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They get tuition, room and board, meals, study aids, blah blah -- the perks of being a Division 1 athlete costs some coin.
that's nice, try telling that to professional sports players that they should be happy being paid with hotel rooms, per diem, and a scholarship to a college
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Old 06-23-2021, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Simply so they don't have to pay them for the revenue they bring in.
Yup.
Initially, any revenue the NCAA brought in was to go to the colleges.

The NCAA was intended to be the regulators of a system that would never generate very much money, as the thought was no one except old grads and other folks with connections to the colleges would even be interested in the games.

When it was the opposite, the NCAAA was suddenly a financial powerhouse, generating millions for financially strapped colleges along with being the only regulator.

So the NCAA could make up rules that benefitted itself, enforce those rules, and punish any individual or college that dared challenge them. All by turning elite athletes into a rare class of slaves.

Be a good slave, and once an athlete gets his degree, a pro team will pick him up for millions of dollars. A deferred payday for allowing the NCAA and the college to make millions from the player's skill.

A scholarship was supposed to make up the financial difference, and the NCAA didn't have to cough up a nickel to the players. It got to make millions on other people's money.

I never though the NCAA was started to be corrupt. It just evolved into corruption as time went along. But corruption is corruption, and it needs to be stopped.
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Old 06-23-2021, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Narrow ruling... ??
Did you read the decision?
Yes, it was a narrow ruling. There were issues left unresolved.
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Old 06-25-2021, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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The NCAA had opportunities, over periods of time, to slowly tweak its system, to advance benefit for student athletes. But it decided to take a hardl-line, outdated, 1950s, greedy stance, knowing darn-well that revenue, over time, was hugely outgrowing the scholarship formula! Now, the ruling bites the NCAA in the behind!
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The NCAA had opportunities, over periods of time, to slowly tweak its system, to advance benefit for student athletes. But it decided to take a hardline, outdated, 1950s, greedy stance, knowing darn-well that revenue, over time, was hugely outgrowing the scholarship formula! Now, the ruling bites the NCAA in the behind!
Yep.

“A new era in college sports begins this week.

Following Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear's executive order allowing college athletes to be compensated for the use of their name, image and likeness — known by its abbreviation "NIL" — at least seven states will put into effect NIL laws, on Thursday. The laws allow athletes to make money for things like endorsement deals, signing autographs and social media content.

Seems only fair.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/28/10101...les-to-keep-up
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Old 06-28-2021, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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A couple things here I have to point out...
One: Universities that have the greatest overall revenue will attract the best players and leave the universities that don't left with the least talented thus a decline in revenue and fan interest.

Two: Women and some men's sports will take a hit as they don't get the attention of fans in the stands thus the Universities can't or won't be able to pay women or men in lesser sports.

Three: some sports may be eliminated do to a lack of money to support mainly women sports. Less revenue due to paying men in sports like football and basketball and no money left over for women sports.

Four: I must point out that each conference can and will set their own rules meaning if they don't pay players enough compared to other conferences, those players will flee to a conference that will.

Most women and lesser men sports can only exists because of high gate receipts from men's sports like football that currently supports them.
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