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Old 06-24-2021, 09:44 PM
 
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Choice implies that there are no negative consequences choosing another option. Unfortunately this is not a reality for many workers given the need to pay rent or mortgage, transportation, the need for healthcare offered by the employer or the need to remain near family. If workers have always had choice then why are Republican governors ending supplemental unemployment? Your theoretical argument does not hold up against reality.

On the other hand a stockholder if he does not invest is not punished nor has he likely lost the ability to pay for basic needs. (remember who is invested in the stock market in this country) He just does not make money and if he does invest, he does not do work to get the returns on that investment.

and let’s not get into the concept of shareholder primacy that seems to be a governing rule of most companies.
No one is using the threat of violence against the workers to taketheirproperty.
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Old 06-25-2021, 06:50 AM
 
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No one is using the threat of violence against the workers to taketheirproperty.
You don’t need a threat of violence to still be a threat. People are capable of realizing if they can’t please their employer then they can 1) lose their job and income 2) risk eviction and the negative consequences associated (and don’t forget, often the police/government show up to enforce evictions and remove property often damaging it) 3) have negative job references that follow them making employment more difficult.
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Old 06-25-2021, 07:57 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Define communism.

The average Fox News host and Republican politician would have us believe that any tax increase at all is communist. Return to 90s or even 70s tax rates? You are a second coming of Stalin in their eyes.
Communism: The first attempt of far left followers of the Hegelian Dialectic to put into practice the control of everyone's lives in the futile attempt at achieving an impossible Utopia that doesn't exist. They have since evolved from class economic struggle to cultural struggle, neo-Marxism, and that woke cultism (Crtitical Theories) is just the latest version trying to blow everything up to remake it in some other way they will never you because they have no idea what they're doing
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Old 06-25-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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You don’t need a threat of violence to still be a threat. People are capable of realizing if they can’t please their employer then they can 1) lose their job and income 2) risk eviction and the negative consequences associated (and don’t forget, often the police/government show up to enforce evictions and remove property often damaging it) 3) have negative job references that follow them making employment more difficult.
In order for an employer to justify hiring an employee, the employee must create a certain amount of value.

In order for an investor to invest in a company, the company must return a certain amount of value.

Investors and employers are not taking the workers' property.

If the workers don't like their job, they can find another job.
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Old 06-25-2021, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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how many will be triggered by this good news?

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...munism-is-evil
All ideologies and political views should be studied. How a person chooses is their constitutional right. I am not sure DiSantis is going about this right. Legally maybe, but looks more like censure.
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Old 06-25-2021, 09:05 AM
 
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All ideologies and political views should be studied. How a person chooses is their constitutional right. I am not sure DiSantis is going about this right. Legally maybe, but looks more like censure.
That's about how I feel about it.

Just teach the facts about each ideology and political system. The facts speak for themselves. A well informed population will always choose what's right for themselves. That's how we got to where we are today, it didn't start that way perfectly formed, we made it better as each generation had a hand in it.

We have everything to be proud of already, it's all hiding in plain sight. No need for the old Cold War rhetoric, which smacks of propaganda and will be distrusted by astute observers.
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