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All the police I know consider domestic fights one of the worst situations
Everyone involved understands that. The people pushing this stuff WANT violence. They WANT carnage. They WANT the entire society to collapse.
Creating an environment in which there's no effective or impartial law enforcement is absolutely essential to that agenda. An orderly, impartial justice system is the brick wall that the Left has faced for some time. They've cracked it. That's one reason they're pushing now, instead of before now. They feel there's enough Leftist infrastructure in place to move forward.
Everyone involved understands that. The people pushing this stuff WANT violence. They WANT carnage. They WANT the entire society to collapse.
Creating an environment in which there's no effective or impartial law enforcement is absolutely essential to that agenda. An orderly, impartial justice system is the brick wall that the Left has faced for some time. They've cracked it. That's one reason they're pushing now, instead of before now. They feel there's enough Leftist infrastructure in place to move forward.
Some speculate that the left is pushing all of this defund the police to cause chaos and later the far left and the Dems can be the saviors and "fix" it all. I've also heard that it is also a mechanism to be able to nationalize policing across this country, in effect a government power grab / consolidation attempt.
I don't know how much of this is true or just hyperbole, it's pretty cynical stuff at best and scary if it's true.
I'll be in favor of social workers directing law enforcement what to do on the same day cops are used to provide personal counseling to those experiencing social problems.
Everyone involved understands that. The people pushing this stuff WANT violence. They WANT carnage. They WANT the entire society to collapse.
Creating an environment in which there's no effective or impartial law enforcement is absolutely essential to that agenda. An orderly, impartial justice system is the brick wall that the Left has faced for some time. They've cracked it. That's one reason they're pushing now, instead of before now. They feel there's enough Leftist infrastructure in place to move forward.
I disagree. My husband is retired LE and is for some moving duties to social services
Law enforcement does have it's share of problems, and one should always look at things that may improve it. Bringing in social services can be a tool that helps.
Not just the civilians, but also the officers.
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OTOH every time I have some homeless person wander into our store in various states of undress, or harassing other customers for money, it means a call to the police. Frankly I wish there was the opportunity to have someone other than a police officer handle this kind of silly nonsense. It's a waste of their time to have to take these people for evaluation, etc. I fully support the police, they are a necessary component of making my job bearable. But yes, defund (which is a stupid phrase for it) and find qualified people who can assist, NOT replace, the police in non violent issues.
OTOH every time I have some homeless person wander into our store in various states of undress, or harassing other customers for money, it means a call to the police. Frankly I wish there was the opportunity to have someone other than a police officer handle this kind of silly nonsense. It's a waste of their time to have to take these people for evaluation, etc. I fully support the police, they are a necessary component of making my job bearable. But yes, defund (which is a stupid phrase for it) and find qualified people who can assist, NOT replace, the police in non violent issues.
It's a waste of the officer's time, which can be better used elsewhere, and costs tax payers a lot.
There IS a middle ground for this movement.
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While I do agree police could use more training and deescalation skills, sending actual social workers to many of these calls is just suicide. Domestic calls can be the worst because people are often in raged out of their minds, capable of murder / suicide events. You can’t have some social worker with her clipboard show up for stuff like this.
That said, I do think in a lot of cases police escalate things and make things worse and there’s been many situations where people can be talked down into a calmer state and back to reason and they’re quick to use force.
Domestic calls are always a danger to police, they all go in very cautious. I don't think this would have been a situation where they want social workers.
All the police I know consider domestic fights one of the worst situations, as frequently the victim will also attack the police.
The overall concept is that by sending the social worker, the person being contacted doesn't get shot.
However, people then say they won't be sending those social workers into any of the dangerous situations.
Um, one would suspect that following that logic that this approach would pretty much get rid of almost none of the police shootings.
That's my logical disconnect with the entire defund concept.
P.S. I agree with other points around proper resource usage but well.....that so-far peaceful homeless guy harrassing people at a store may not stay that way so they're going to need to be careful with that program.
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