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Old 06-28-2021, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I can't believe that Trump is actually pulling in people with a theme of revenge - revenge rally, revenge tour. It was always clear that he was a spiteful, vindictive person, taking it to a level unprecedented in any president. But I can't believe it's so blatant.

Still, this is a country based on the idea of moving forward with a new government, which is the essence of democracy. This is also the country that loved sunny temperaments like Reagan, not dark, vicious, vengeful ones.

And do Trump supporters not realize that revenge is what destroys places like Serbia and Iraq? In fact, revenge seems to be what fuels a lot of mass shootings in the U.S. Is that the path that Trumpers think is a good idea?

We watched the entire Democrat party spend four years pursuing a failed impeachment based on a false dossier as an act of revenge for Trump beating Hillary, but you're upset because Trump supporters are ticked off about it?

You should probably open the windows in your own glass house before you throw stones.

 
Old 06-28-2021, 07:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
I can't believe that Trump is actually pulling in people with a theme of revenge - revenge rally, revenge tour. It was always clear that he was a spiteful, vindictive person, taking it to a level unprecedented in any president. But I can't believe it's so blatant.

Still, this is a country based on the idea of moving forward with a new government, which is the essence of democracy. This is also the country that loved sunny temperaments like Reagan, not dark, vicious, vengeful ones.

And do Trump supporters not realize that revenge is what destroys places like Serbia and Iraq? In fact, revenge seems to be what fuels a lot of mass shootings in the U.S. Is that the path that Trumpers think is a good idea?

Don't you think Democrats should be taught a lesson so they don't repeat their immoral and unethical behavior of the last 4 years?
 
Old 06-28-2021, 08:23 AM
 
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Wow, he must be the first politician ever to tell a lie! Meanwhile, Biden doesn't lie at all because he can't even remember the truth... So as far as he is concerned, truth and lies are one in the same. And his devoted cult like followers just play right along.





For every one lie Trump tells, there will be 10 lefties willing to carry water for him by repeating that lie. Great work!





Their lives are nothing without Trump... They will be empty shells of a human when he expires...Let's enjoy the entertainment while we can...

Oh, the irony.
 
Old 06-28-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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The powers-that-be have been wrecking things for a very long time..........THAT is
why Trump got elected.
Nope.

Trump got the nomination largely because of the unexpected popularity of insults as entertainment.

He won the election because of a perfect storm of the opponent being Hillary (a terrible person), Hillary running a terrible campaign, and the timing of the Comey letter.
 
Old 06-28-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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George Washington warned up in is Farewell Address after 2-terms despite few wanted him to step down. He warned o

- Partisanship taking over.
- multiple Parties added and risk of further divisions.
- GETTING EVEN with opponents and the other Party as a core value basically.
- Upholding the Constitution clearly was a major point also even with amendments he did not know of yet.

The term Conspiracy Theories was not around then. Still the concept in demonizing and inability of Compromising by Partisanship was and is today.... as is so many warnings though his whole speech that still gets read in Congress...... is relevant today. Washington clearly say this Union of states was fragile and still a experiment of sorts that could implode. Even Civil War did not...... though it is unlikely a split in the Union today by rogue states to Militias taking over spoils of a division that is not peaceful. Would ever have a outcome we could bounce back from.

Sad that we have Conspiracy Theories of basically this will and should happen to a coup of sorts in the name of gaining the True Nation back.... Sad part is those who cry for it the loudest do not see they follow who would secure all power and we just might have a Dictator instead even if masked as a Putin as a leader who recently gave himself power for life.

That was totally what George Washington did NOT want and warned of.

As a Nation we risk not just extreme notions in Political circles in the forefront, but actually those in power or desiring it back promoting Conspiracies and it is fed to those to keep it alive..... that half the Nation is your enemy and half of your Party are traitors also.
 
Old 06-28-2021, 08:37 AM
 
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We watched the entire Democrat party spend four years pursuing a failed impeachment based on a false dossier as an act of revenge for Trump beating Hillary, but you're upset because Trump supporters are ticked off about it?

You should probably open the windows in your own glass house before you throw stones.
Failed removal from office, not failed impeachment.

Trump was successfully impeached (and forever will be) twice.

Impeachment is entirely a House action. The Senate trial is nominally called an impeachment trial, but it is about removal from office, not impeachment.

Once at least one article of impeachment has passed a vote on the house floor (not in committee), the President has been impeached....and that happened to Trump....twice.
 
Old 06-28-2021, 08:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
No, Trump hasn't proven anyone else's lies.

But he doesn't have to! Because he has over 30,000 of his own!

Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...er-four-years/
1. Russia "spy". That consumed literally 2.5 years of media oxygen. All BS.

2. Russia "bounties." That was treated as fact right before an election. All BS.

3. Steele dossier. Need I say more? All BS.



Massive lies that accounted for massive amounts of time in the Trump admin.
 
Old 06-28-2021, 08:40 AM
 
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Didn't Obama say something about "punishing" enemies? And hasn't the left in the past six months sought to damage or destroy the lives of those who served under Trump (or even supported him)?
 
Old 06-28-2021, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Deflection, projection, diversions, spin -- Democrats have no leadership or original ideas to offer, so they resort to deflection and lies.

Revenge seems to be largely Democrat/liberal in recent years. Clinton Foundation. Nancy Pelosi. Obama's weaponized IRS and DOJ. Two FBI employees infiltrating a group in order to instigate an appearance of violence during the January 6 demonstration. The toxic liberal corruption cannot provide even marginally adequate leadership, which is why they need the media to ignore real stories and instead attack Trump or any non-brainwashed person.

These thread titles, where the title has massive false assumptions built into the 'questions' they ask, is a classic liberal social media activist strategy.

Thanks for keeping us alert to the desperation level of liberals. More liberal posts like these means they're falling apart. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are monumentally TERRIBLE at their jobs, and they don't even make good puppets for Susan Rice and her leftover Obama cronies behind the scenes.
 
Old 06-28-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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1. Russia "spy". That consumed literally 2.5 years of media oxygen. All BS.

2. Russia "bounties." That was treated as fact right before an election. All BS.

3. Steele dossier. Need I say more? All BS.

Massive lies that accounted for massive amounts of time in the Trump admin.
Problem is when a country as Russia has heat taken off it and a man such as Putin is praised as having more respect then half ones own Party elected officials and of course half the whole Nation. It is EXTREMISM that eats at a base being fed Conspiracies.

We had Russia gain military bases in North Africa with adding 6 more in the news in 2020. We had Russia place claims on the Arctic with a build-up of its military there. All was nothing to fear vs China. Yet it is Russia that has the largest sales of military hardware to the African Continent....China with 9%, US like 16%, France 14%, and Russia over 37%. Both Russia and China are growing a presence around the globe yet only one was was given all the blame by a past administration and Russia still grew is presence with little complaint.

We clearly had the US declare proof Russia interfered with our 2020 election and one person claims it was as if a lie also..... sorry no it is not BS that Russia was involved with election concerns found valid and of hackings linked Directly to Russia.

We had the US declare Russia was involved when US agencies including the Pentagon were hacked and not even discovered till damage was done and info taken..... still a standing US President would not accept this....demonizing our own Government investigators he even had assigned.

So BE CAREFUL in calling all RUSSIAN ADVENTURES and DUBIOUS DOINGS IS FAKE NEWS and BS.

Stop tying the Trump Russia collusion stigma as if RUSSIA IS THIS INNOCENT NO LONGER A FOE OR NATION that has not a aim of a WEAKENED US OF A.... That agenda in dubious acts upon our security they have done WAS REAL.... RUSSIA IS NOT OUR ALLIE in the end now or since WW2 and that was merely by a common enemy at that time.
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