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Old 06-27-2021, 09:34 PM
 
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Simply parroting that "no vaccine is 100% effective" doesn't explain the numbers of people who are getting Covid after being vaccinated.

The math doesn't work out.
I remember a bio chemist and yes he had a bit of a conspiracy mind was warning people online about a year ago that the vaccine in fact was designed to make you more susceptible and make it more deadly to the coming strains of the virus they would push through. It appears we may be beginning to see the beginning signs of that. Time will tell.
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Old 06-27-2021, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Japan
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When you don't have facts go with insults.
It is a pretty dumb thread though. And it does seem like you didn't even read the article you based it on.
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Old 06-27-2021, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Just more evidence in my view that the vaccines do not work.



So only 1/3rd of deaths from the Delta Variant are unvaccinated. Wow.

https://www.theguardian.com/theobser...een-vaccinated
Cherry pick much? Your view is just wrong.

From your link..... The vaccines are not perfect. PHE estimates two-dose effectiveness against hospital admission with the Delta infections at around 94%. We can perhaps assume there is at least 95% protection against Covid-19 death, which means the lethal risk is reduced to less than a twentieth of its usual value.
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Old 06-28-2021, 05:31 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Just more evidence in my view that the vaccines do not work.



So only 1/3rd of deaths from the Delta Variant are unvaccinated. Wow.

https://www.theguardian.com/theobser...een-vaccinated
The death rate is tiny, indeed the latest deaths are 11.

As for the vaccine it massively improves survival rates, however there are still vulnerable groups for which catching any infection can be fatal, and these include those who already suffer from serious illness or disability, and this is especially the case if it is related to respiratory problems or lung disease. Those undergoing certain treatments as chemotherapy are also vulnerable and having the vaccine is not guarantee that individuals will survive in such circumstances. The same is true of the very frail and elderly, who are often nearing the end of their lives.

Any vaccine just limits the harm a virus can do, however it is no guarantee of survival, and this is mainly the case where the patient already has significant medical issues.
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Old 06-28-2021, 05:41 AM
 
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Absolutely untrue. The whole SARS-CoV-2 is being studied in many labs.



No, that is not what it shows. How many vaccinated people have not died? Millions.
How many UNvacinnated people had it and didn't die?
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Old 06-28-2021, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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What the study shows...is that if absolutely everyone was fully vaccinated .....29% of the people that died were fully vaccinated....1/3rd....1 out of every 3
What a gem of brilliant deductive reasoning.
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Old 06-28-2021, 07:43 AM
 
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From your link:

"Consider the hypothetical world where absolutely everyone had received a less than perfect vaccine. Although the death rate would be low, everyone who died would have been fully vaccinated."
Yep, I really have no idea why this simple fact is so difficult to comprehend for so many...
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Old 06-28-2021, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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How many UNvacinnated people had it and didn't die?
How many did not die but have not gotten well after many months?
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Old 06-28-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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Wonderful I did one dose n now have COVID. Monitoring taking care of myself, but not much one can do.
May you recover quickly and thoroughly.
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Old 06-28-2021, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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May you recover quickly and thoroughly.
Thanks. Just talked to Dr. getting all kinds of pills steroids etc. I hv my meter. Key. Above 93 - my BP is high but I’m sick n fever. Let’s see how it goes.
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