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Old 06-28-2021, 09:46 PM
 
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how can he be a loser?
Losing an election will, in general, earn one that designation. Trump's post-election efforts have since earned him the right to be called a "sore loser".

Anyway - how does his rally crowds compare with Hillary's rallies six months after she lost? Oh - yeah. She didn't hold any, because it's a really weird and unhealthy idea.
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:49 PM
 
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No, those of us on the left are still not big fans of neo cons. It's just the right has sunk so low that merely acknowledging that Trump lost the election is enough to get some kudos.

I have no idea about Kinzinger's voting record but according to you he voted with Trump 90% of the time, and yet even with that 'his days are numbered in the party' just for accepting the results of the election. Seems to me like pro-Trump derangement syndrome is a worse condition that plain old TDS.
Like the right was so high before Trump for you Democrats. Thanks for the laugh. His problem with Trump is like Liz Cheney, foreign wars and keep the war machine running. Trump wants to do the opposite of the Bush doctrine and these neo cons with the help of the democrats wants no part of that.

One time you Democrats were against the wars and endless occupations but you sold out a long time ago so it's hard to take your serious serious. That's the funny part especially defending neo cons.
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:53 PM
 
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how can he be a loser?
Have you seen his businesses? He couldn't get loans from commercial banks after his bankruptcies which forced him to borrow at credit card interest rates and from Bayrock Capital/Russian Mob.

Trump, like AOC, only has had success seeking negative attention and creating media circuses. Failed businessman and a failed politician who has exploited people's cult of personality desire for heroes. AOC, whose intellectual talents were no greater than being a bartender, is doing the exact same thing on the other extreme. Foolish politicians for foolish people.
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:53 PM
 
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Losing an election will, in general, earn one that designation. Trump's post-election efforts have since earned him the right to be called a "sore loser".

Anyway - how does his rally crowds compare with Hillary's rallies six months after she lost? Oh - yeah. She didn't hold any, because it's a really weird and unhealthy idea.
So losing a close election by less than 0.5% of the electorate when they had to closed the economy to barely beat him makes him a loser? getting more votes than Obama? LOL

Why would you democrats care about his rallies? Biden is in the W.H., worry about Corn Pops. TDS is still strong in the party.
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:55 PM
 
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So losing a close election... makes him a loser?
Yes. It's one of them definition things.
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:57 PM
 
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Have you seen his businesses? He couldn't get loans from commercial banks after his bankruptcies which forced him to borrow at credit card interest rates and from Bayrock Capital/Russian Mob.

Trump, like AOC, only has had success seeking negative attention and creating media circuses. Failed businessman and a failed politician who has exploited people's cult of personality desire for heroes. AOC, whose intellectual talents were no greater than being a bartender, is doing the exact same thing on the other extreme. Foolish politicians for foolish people.



let me guess, you voted for Biden and admired career politicians that have done NOTHING in the private sector and got rich in government like Biden, Clintons and Obama. What have they done in the private sector? NOTHING, They all got rich in government. But that's honorable. Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:58 PM
 
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Well maybe because he lost the election.
The people who pretend to rally against participation prizes sure have a hard time losing with grace, don't they?
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:58 PM
 
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Yes. It's one of them definition things.

who's definition? Biden lost 2 Democrat presidential primaries by wide margins landslide loses. He had to quit twice in disgrace. He is a loser for losing twice?
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:05 PM
 
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Like the right was so high before Trump for you Democrats. Thanks for the laugh. His problem with Trump is like Liz Cheney, foreign wars and keep the war machine running. Trump wants to do the opposite of the Bush doctrine and these neo cons with the help of the democrats wants no part of that.

One time you Democrats were against the wars and endless occupations but you sold out a long time ago so it's hard to take your serious serious. That's the funny part especially defending neo cons.
I am not defending neo cons or their war machine. I was not a huge fan of Obama's foreign ventures (although they were a huge improvement from the Bush-Cheney years of non-stop aggression, cheered on by the political right) and for the most supported Trump's non-interventionist policies overseas.

All I am doing is pointing out that a guy can support Trump 90% of the time and you will still toss him aside like yesterday's Kleenex for merely acknowledging that Biden won the election. Let's not pretend that anyone on the right cares about Kinzinger's policies regarding intervention in foreign conflicts. All they care about is whether his bows down before almighty Trump or not.
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:13 PM
 
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I am not defending neo cons or their war machine. I was not a huge fan of Obama's foreign ventures (although they were a huge improvement from the Bush-Cheney years of non-stop aggression, cheered on by the political right) and for the most supported Trump's non-interventionist policies overseas.

All I am doing is pointing out that a guy can support Trump 90% of the time and you will still toss him aside like yesterday's Kleenex for merely acknowledging that Biden won the election. Let's not pretend that anyone on the right cares about Kinzinger's policies regarding intervention in foreign conflicts. All they care about is whether his bows down before almighty Trump or not.

How was Obama an improvement? he expanded the wars to 7 countries and expanded the drone strikes on civilians and the massive illegal spying on Americans broke under Obama which he defended.

Depends what 90% is and what is the 10%. The 10% is like Liz Cheney, it's a very important 10% for the Neo Cons of endless wars and endless occupations of not bringing troops home.

I toss him because he his a Bush Neo Con and his problem with Trump like Cheney is the wars and bringing our troops home and stopping this endless wars madness. Kinzinger like Cheney supports the 19 yr.old war in Afghanistan and we should stay there and other places forever. He wants to bomb Russia.


Again, Democrats used to be against these wars and occupations until they sold out and voted for Hillary and Biden. It shows they have NO principles and are all about being in power but you democrats have a bad case of TDS that don't see what's going on.
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