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Old 06-30-2021, 11:44 AM
 
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Of course a California city would come up with something so asinine.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/san-jose-...143557603.html

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Just five weeks after last month’s massacre at a San Jose light-rail yard that left nine people dead, the city has taken unprecedented gun-control action.

In a unanimous vote Tuesday night, San Jose’s city council approved a national first that will see gun owners being forced to compensate taxpayers for the spiraling costs of gun violence. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, gun owners in California’s third-largest city will be required to take out liability insurance for their firearms, and pay an annual tax that will help fund emergency responses to gun-related calls.

In a news release ahead of Tuesday night’s vote, San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo said: “While the Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms, it does not require taxpayers to subsidize gun ownership... We won’t magically end gun violence, but we stop paying for it. We can also better care for its victims, and reduce gun-related injuries and death.”
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Old 06-30-2021, 11:46 AM
 
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This should never be the case in self defense or in the defense of others.
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Old 06-30-2021, 11:51 AM
 
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Of course a California city would come up with something so asinine.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/san-jose-...143557603.html
Wow this is stupid even for CA standards. So let's charge law abiding citizens for the actions of criminals, that makes total sense.

How about- let's stop playing nice with criminals. Put them in Prison, no tv, no ac, just enough food and water to live, no medical treatment if you get sick and die, good... no rules.. let's make prison the worst place on earth to be... and maybe that will stop criminals more than a tax on people that don't commit crimes.
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Old 06-30-2021, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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I think it will take years, but this too will eventually be tossed by SCOTUS. It’s an infringement that won’t pass the test.
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Old 06-30-2021, 11:58 AM
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Of course a California city would come up with something so asinine.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/san-jose-...143557603.html
How is this different from car owners being forced to carry liability insurance, and pay a registration tax every year?

If you own something that could cause grievous damage to someone else, you need to be able to cover the damage you do.

These gun owners aren't going to be responsible for insuring OTHER gun owners, just themselves and the weapons THEY own.

Just like homeowners, and business owners and doctors are forced to carry liability. In case they harm someone, that person doesn't have to bear the burden themselves.
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Old 06-30-2021, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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For rich people, this tax is nothing. So now poor people not only can't afford to live in the safe areas in California, they can't even protect themselves against attackers.
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Old 06-30-2021, 12:12 PM
 
Location: DFW
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These gun owners aren't going to be responsible for insuring OTHER gun owners, just themselves and the weapons THEY own.

Just like homeowners, and business owners and doctors are forced to carry liability. In case they harm someone, that person doesn't have to bear the burden themselves.
Do you think Criminals who shoot someone will carry Insurance?

Are most shootings by Criminals or Honest Citizens?
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Old 06-30-2021, 12:16 PM
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Do you think Criminals who shoot someone will carry Insurance?

Are most shootings by Criminals or Honest Citizens?
No, they won't. There should be SEVERE penalties for those who own and carry firearms illegally, or purchased illegally.

Those who purchase them legally and don't have a history of violence, will likely have a fairly low insurance rate, same as drivers with clean records.

I don't see how this is the least bit different from how we deal with auto liability.
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Old 06-30-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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Until the law abiding gun owners and patriots of America start using their tools to enforce the Constitution, and to remove the enemies of liberty from our government these draconian excesses will continue.

These elected extremist enemies of America , who strip your self defense rights and put your families, homes and children at risk of attack by barbarians nearly all have armed security, paid for by us.

And such specific liability insurance doesn't even exist, and won't. I myself carry self defense insurance. It is to protect ME from people like these Oakland extremists and their overzealous persecutions of lawful self defenders, not the scumbag that attacked me.

SELF DEFENSE IS NOT A CRIME!
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Old 06-30-2021, 12:22 PM
 
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How is this different from car owners being forced to carry liability insurance, and pay a registration tax every year?

If you own something that could cause grievous damage to someone else, you need to be able to cover the damage you do.

These gun owners aren't going to be responsible for insuring OTHER gun owners, just themselves and the weapons THEY own.

Just like homeowners, and business owners and doctors are forced to carry liability. In case they harm someone, that person doesn't have to bear the burden themselves.
Is the property damaged caused by law abiding gun owners been enough to necessitate liability insurance? What you want is law abiding gun owners to pay for the damage caused by criminals. By the way, gun ownership is a right not a privilege like driving. So now you want citizens to pay a fee for a right? This is how asinine this thought process is.
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