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Old 07-01-2021, 08:15 PM
 
Location: SC
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Old 07-01-2021, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Recently DNA found on a weapon might prove a man who was executed 4 years ago was innocent. No system is 100% correct we should not be executing people. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/u...-arkansas.html

18 people on death row have been released due to DNA testing shows how the system fails only because of a private group were they able to avoid being executed.

https://innocenceproject.org/the-inn...death-penalty/
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Old 07-01-2021, 08:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Executions don't deter crime, they don't change behavior.
They do both. Capital punishment is the ONLY punishment with a 0% recidivism rate.

It may not always prevent a guy from committing a truly horrendous crime once.

But it always prevents him from committing it twice.

That's the best change of behavior we can possibly get from our justice system.
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Old 07-01-2021, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Good, it was completely grotesque how Barr was trying to speed up the conveyor belt and move as many federal inmates as possible to the death chamber before Trump's term expired.
What is completely grotesque is all the duly convicted, duly sentenced people who've committed unspeakable crimes who have been escaping justice under the law.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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What is completely grotesque is all the duly convicted, duly sentenced people who've committed unspeakable crimes who have been escaping justice under the law.
What is completely grotesque is that the US stands alone in the entire western world as being the only major country that still can't get passed the desire for state sanctioned killing. We are making progress though with nearly half the states now having eliminated it.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:26 PM
 
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Just fire a shotgun blast over the heads of all those kidnappers and premeditated murderers. Joe said so. That'll keep them in line. Won't it?

On the flip side, at least the Capitol Policeman who shot unarmed Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt to death without warning, is safe.

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/garl...ry?id=78621507

Garland orders halt to any further federal executions, official says

ByAlexander Mallin
July 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

Attorney General Merrick Garland has ordered a temporary halt to the Justice Department advocating any scheduling of further executions of federal inmates, a DOJ official told ABC News.

The new directive comes after Garland's predecessor in the job, Attorney General William Barr, had resumed the department's use of capital punishment against inmates after a nearly two-decade lapse and pushed for executions of several federal prisoners during the transition period before President Joe Biden -- who opposes the death penalty -- took office.

The directive, however, is not expected to impact the department's position taken recently in the case of Boston bomber Dzokhar Tsarnaev, a person familiar with the matter told ABC News. Officials last month urged the Supreme Court to overturn a lower court's ruling and reinstate Tsarnaev's death penalty despite Biden's stated opposition to capital punishment.
This has been talked about to death. It was her choice to climb through a broken window which she had no business doing. Some people make stupid choices and suffer the consequences.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:37 PM
 
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So life in prison is no big deal at all but the death penalty is? I would imagine most who commit these horrific crimes are hoping to get away with it not hoping they get life in prison. Who would want that?
WHen mot getting away with it means death instead of being alive I would say that makes a difference.
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Old 07-01-2021, 09:56 PM
 
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Really, you think if these didn't drag out for years it would make a difference.
Absolutely.

In cases like the guy in Georgia shot up the massage parlors... people would link the crime to the death much more than if the death penalty occurred 10 years later.
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Old 07-02-2021, 05:51 AM
 
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WHen mot getting away with it means death instead of being alive I would say that makes a difference.

You should probably read up on all the studies done on this. The death penalty has no deterrent effect. And I am not saying I am against it in all cases. Treason and presidential assassination or attempted assassinations should get the chair. And Garlands order only involved federal executions.
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Old 07-02-2021, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Good, it was completely grotesque how Barr was trying to speed up the conveyor belt and move as many federal inmates as possible to the death chamber before Trump's term expired.
They should have been executed the day after convicted. What a waste of time and resources housing and feeding them.
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