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Old 07-05-2021, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Hard to blame El Nino in a La Nina year isn't it?...You anti science folk. Lol.

After a record-tying warm year in 2020, the world is on track for a cooler year in 2021, driven by moderately strong La Niña conditions in the late part of 2020 and early 2021. However, 2021 will almost certainly be one of the Top 10 warmest years since records began in the mid-1800s.

https://www.climate.gov/enso
That was just bait to see who bites. I did not say we experiencing a La Nina. In fact, there is no La Nina at the moment, we are in transition.

My point was that you people always blame man-made global warming climate change, and blame humans, when we have El Nino, La Nina causing droughts and heat, etc... And you claim we are anti-science?
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Old 07-05-2021, 04:23 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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Anyone else notice Elliot is avoiding these questions to avoid total hypocrisy?

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Elliot, if you are a true believer then you need to start at home first. Your own home. Your life.

You are using a computer. A computer destroys the planet in its creation and its use. Stop using it.

Do you walk everywhere? Using any form of transportation other than walking destroys the planet in its creation and its use. Stop using them. Walk instead.

Do you live in an existing cave? All types of housing destroy the planet in its creation and its use. Stop using them. Live in a cave instead.

You are using electricity. All types of power destroy the planet in its creation. Stop using it. Go without power for the greater good.

Do you eat? All growing and eating of food destroys the planet in its creation and its processing through the body and waste. Stop eating. Go without food for the greater good.

See, here is the thing Elliot. Our existence in any form is a negative on the planet in some way. The only way to not be a negative on the planet is to not exist.

Are you willing to go that far? Are you willing to self terminate?

If not, why are you willing to destroy the planet to a level you are comfortable with, but at the same time demonize others?

You are hypocritical.
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Old 07-05-2021, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You lose what little credibility you have when you use the dumb phrase "climate deniers."
I'm sure he said that while double-masked. Because to not believe Fauci, means you do not believe science.
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Old 07-05-2021, 04:35 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Anyone else notice Elliot is avoiding these questions to avoid total hypocrisy?
I'm still waiting for Elliott to post the source to all these deaths because it's nowhere in the article.
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Old 07-05-2021, 04:50 PM
 
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Data to back up your assertion?

We know with 99.9999% certainty (yes, to four significant digits) that humans are causing climate change. The fact that climate deniers keep denying it is getting rather comical, right up there with Flat Earthers and Moon Landing Doubters.
"Deniers" is a politically oriented term that alarmists constantly use to try to insult, denigrate and de-legitimize people who disagree with them for the purpose of trying to stifle discussion and the expression of dissenting viewpoints on this topic.

The term “deniers” is what people who have denied the holocaust are commonly referred to – as in “holocaust deniers”. By using this term, the AGW alarmists are collectively trying to associate people who have doubts and concerns about this alarmist movement with Adolph Hitler and his murderous campaign against the Jews.

Each and every time they do this, they are invoking Godwin's law, which states that if a discussion goes on long enough, it will eventually devolve to a point where comparisons to the Nazis are made, and whoever invoked the Nazis reference automatically loses whatever debate was in progress.

Since the common leftist name-calling slurs, including "Racist," "Bigot," "Homophobe," "Sexist," and "Misogynist" are clearly out of place here, they had to dig down deep to come up with an insult that was at least as vile and hateful as these other appellations are. The comparison with Hitler and the Nazis is what they have collectively agreed upon.

So these are the tactics that the left has devolved to here.
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Old 07-05-2021, 06:45 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Data to back up your assertion?
Prove that there is no proof that man's activities have had an effect of our climate?

I guess it's typical of the hysterical manmade-climate pushers to demand we prove a negative.

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These people have had more than 50 years to publish their proof that man's activities are affecting the climate.

So far they are 0-for-everything.

Nothing but "Oh, it's obvious that man MUST be doing it!"

Meaning, No, we have no proof.
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We know with 99.9999% certainty (yes, to four significant digits) that humans are causing climate change. The fact that climate deniers keep denying it is getting rather comical, right up there with Flat Earthers and Moon Landing Doubters.
Look, there goes another one!

The same claimed "certainty". The same complete lack of proof.

That's all they've ever had. And they just can't grasp the idea that they are wrong.
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Old 07-05-2021, 09:59 PM
 
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1.) Despite nearly 50 years of trying, no one has ever established what increase in CO2 will cause a certain amount of change in temperature... or if the amount we are seeing will increase temperatures by even a barely-detectable amount.

2.) While CO2 that absorbs solar radiation can raise the temperature, CO2 also reflects incoming solar radiation - that is, it prevents a significant amount of solar radiation from ever getting into most of the atmosphere, thus preventing much of the greenhouse effect, and contributing to the cooling of the atmosphere.

no one has ever established what increase in CO2 will cause a certain amount of change in temperature...

Of course they have. Basic physics 101, Nobel prize winning chemist Svante Arrhenius postulated a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere would increase global temperatures by 5 deg C. CO2 is transparent to visible and UV sunlight but absorbs infrared energy. Simple blackbody physics.

The climate models have been remarkably accurate. NASA agrees.


CO2 also reflects incoming solar radiation - that is, it prevents a significant amount of solar radiation from ever getting into most of the atmosphere

Not true.
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Old 07-05-2021, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It's gonna get warmer, so everyone should be aware of this....Meat starts to cook at 100 degrees F.

At approximately 100 degrees, the strands of proteins that make up the muscle and connective tissues begin to cook but also unwind, The water and juices are released at around 120 degrees.....

More than 300 people were cooked to death in British Columbia during the recent heat wave,

Stay cool all.

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Old 07-05-2021, 10:00 PM
 
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37% and rising. Climate change isn't just an abstract scientific concept, it's starting to kill people. The giveaway that it is manmade climate change is that the increasing rate of heat death is occurring independently across all continents, in parallel with the increasing rate of extreme weather events all across the globe.

Climate change deniers, by spreading disinformation, are complicit in a small way in these deaths.


The burden of heat-related mortality attributable to recent human-induced climate change
"Climate change deniers, by spreading disinformation, are complicit in a small way in these deaths."

This is disinformation.
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Old 07-05-2021, 10:25 PM
 
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"Climate change deniers, by spreading disinformation, are complicit in a small way in these deaths."

This is disinformation.
Overdramatic? Okay, maybe. Disinformation? No. Look, without the climate deniers in Congress we would be taking more active measures to wean ourselves off of fossil fuels and other emitters of CO2 and methane. The longer the U.S., China and other developed countries drag their feet, the hotter it's going to get and more will die from extreme temperatures.
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