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Old 07-07-2021, 08:00 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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well what you will see is after a few cops are sued and go bankrupt is the rest moving to different states or finding other jobs. Would you work a job where you could be sued for making a mistake? Thats what happens in the real world.
I don't know, maybe you should ask doctors, lawyers, nurses, dentists, engineers, builders, electricians, plumbers, taxi/uber drivers, accountants, pharmacists, home inspectors, realtors, veterinarians...
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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I don't know, maybe you should ask doctors, lawyers, nurses, dentists, engineers, builders, electricians, plumbers, taxi/uber drivers, accountants, pharmacists, home inspectors, realtors, veterinarians...
Maybe if law enforcement paid like Doctors, Lawyers, Nurses, Dentists, pharmacists, etc. it would not be such a big issue.
 
Old 07-07-2021, 08:08 AM
 
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No LEO in New Mexico has Qualified Immunity any longer.
Will they change their aggressive bullying tactics, used on citizens that don't know their rights?

We will see?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpL8j0FI7M4
A more important question is how much violent crime will rise and how many innocent lives will be lost as a result. Keep weakening police force and crime will continue to rise. The democrats in NM will have blood on their hands.
 
Old 07-07-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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I don't know, maybe you should ask doctors, lawyers, nurses, dentists, engineers, builders, electricians, plumbers, taxi/uber drivers, accountants, pharmacists, home inspectors, realtors, veterinarians...
Far far different scenarios. Not a single person you mentioned deals with the ugliest of humans day in and day out like law enforcement does. Walk a mile in cop’s shoes before you judge.
 
Old 07-07-2021, 08:15 AM
 
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I love the body cameras. It shows 99% of the time how the cops act appropriately. There is a reason why many defense attorneys are against body cams.
??? Is the love enhanced when they mute their mic's to go on a fishing trip to see what they can charge an innocent person with
Transparency was the goal but the cops do everything they can to defeat it including not releasing it for years if it makes them look bad or crooked.
The upside is they sometimes forget to mute it while conjuring up a false charge then the DA drops the charges when they see the video and sound.

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Old 07-07-2021, 08:20 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Maybe if law enforcement paid like Doctors, Lawyers, Nurses, Dentists, pharmacists, etc. it would not be such a big issue.
The median salary for a cop in NJ is $100,000 excluding pension, overtime, and benefits.

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Old 07-07-2021, 08:22 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Far far different scenarios. Not a single person you mentioned deals with the ugliest of humans day in and day out like law enforcement does. Walk a mile in cop’s shoes before you judge.
That's not true. Drivers need to pick up all kinds of people. Health care workers are required to deal with all kinds of trashy people as well. So are some lawyers. There is nothing special about law enforcement that entitles them to this immunity.
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Old 07-07-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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We need police to be held more accountable. Police Unions are too politically powerful in many areas, especially where I live, and their only concern is maintaining their compensations and insulation from accountability.

However, we don't need an aggrieved militant minority that wants the country burned down because they are resentful about the past dictating policy, which is what we've had the last year or so. When you have the President's press secretary referring to "police violence and systemic racism" after the Columbus shooting where Bryant was shot while trying to plunge a knife into another black girl, you have officially jumped the shark. We have 2 competing dishonest forces steering the narrative, and both do not accept any dissent, and the situation stinks.
 
Old 07-07-2021, 08:49 AM
 
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Just like every doctor in America quit and found other jobs when they found out they could get sued for medical malpractice, and every lawyer quit and went somewhere else when a couple of them got sued for legal malpractice, and every engineer in America, and every nurse, and every pharmacist, and every single professional driver, and...

Oh...

Wait... that never happened, did it?

That never happened because this is a stupid argument that authoritarian bootlickers made up because they like living in a world where police have absolute, godlike powers over their subjects. Everyone else sees through it just fine, though.




So what you're saying is that like health care, this is one more problem that other developed countries all over the world are able to solve, but the United States is incapable of.

I actually agree with you. Thank you for admitting it, even if you didn't realize that was what you were doing.
You apparently don't know the difference between a cop and a doctor or lawyer and why your comparison is laughable.

Show me where an attorney has to make a split-second legal decision that could affect whether or not they end up going home or going to the morgue? I don't think there is an attorney out there that does anything without a 20-page document. How about a doctor? Sure they can make medical decisions that affect the patient's life but they do that AFTER looking at the results of tests and or observation. They don't do that running through an alley trying to catch up to a suspect that just pointed a gun at them and fired a few shots.
 
Old 07-07-2021, 09:38 AM
 
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What percentage of cops do you think are "Bad Apples"? Do you believe a cop could ever make an honest unintentional mistake? If they did should they be held just as liable as one of your "bad apples"?
this is irrelevant to the thread. it's a pivot.
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