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"I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out."
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
I think you should get an envelope and a stamp and mail the govt of Haiti whatever you can spare to help them out. You might even enlist some of your like minded friends to do the same or start a "go fund haiti" campaign.
I know you're trying to sound rational () in proposing Biden send a group of strangers (or as you might call them "a foreign govt") $5,000,000 of our dollars, but in reality you are coming off as quite unhinged.
I try not to respond to people who are purposely rude, but I want to make this point.
When a country (or person) asks for help, and you don't want to give it and don't think it's a good thing to support, offering a very little (and 5 million is a VERY, VERY little) is a good way to put an end to the request. Refusing to act at all leaves the door open to their continued pleas because you haven't responded yet. If you give a small amount in cash, and offer tutorials and maybe some software support on securing their assets, you've responded and made it clear this is it.
And I'm not going to continue this conversation with you if you don't cut the snark.
Giving a very small amount is a tried and true diplomatic, and legal staple. As in, offer some tiny amount in your will to someone you wish to actually write out of the will, because in court it's obvious the deceased didn't actually forget about Jane. The deceased just didn't wish to give her much.
I try not to respond to people who are purposely rude, but I want to make this point.
When a country (or person) asks for help, and you don't want to give it and don't think it's a good thing to support, offering a very little (and 5 million is a VERY, VERY little) is a good way to put an end to the request. Refusing to act at all leaves the door open to their continued pleas because you haven't responded yet. If you give a small amount in cash, and offer tutorials and maybe some software support on securing their assets, you've responded and made it clear this is it.
And I'm not going to continue this conversation with you if you don't cut the snark.
Giving a very small amount is a tried and true diplomatic, and legal staple. As in, offer some tiny amount in your will to someone you wish to actually write out of the will, because in court it's obvious the deceased didn't actually forget about Jane. The deceased just didn't wish to give her much.
Make it a token payment so they shut up? That is some real .GOV nonsense there. Sheesh.
Giving money in this case is simply "casting pearls before swine". Haiti is, and will continue to be, a failed kleptocracy.
Spending the money to have our folks train their folks makes more sense, but then that involves gear and supplies to be effective, which seems to bring the U.S. into yet another swamp.
The only real policy aspect of this is the U.S. following the Monroe Doctrine for years, which could muddy the waters some.
Direct air dropped humanitarian aid supplies to keep folks fed would be OK, but no troops to distribute it. Somalia was not that long ago, the lessons should still be relevant. Haiti needs to manage their own country.
Make it a token payment so they shut up? That is some real .GOV nonsense there. Sheesh.
Giving money in this case is simply "casting pearls before swine". Haiti is, and will continue to be, a failed kleptocracy.
Spending the money to have our folks train their folks makes more sense, but then that involves gear and supplies to be effective, which seems to bring the U.S. into yet another swamp.
The only real policy aspect of this is the U.S. following the Monroe Doctrine for years, which could muddy the waters some.
Direct air dropped humanitarian aid supplies to keep folks fed would be OK, but no troops to distribute it. Somalia was not that long ago, the lessons should still be relevant. Haiti needs to manage their own country.
Good intentions, but once you realize the expense of administering the aid takes up most of, or exceeds the amount the aid, the irrationalty of the plan is shown.
Like I said earlier in this thread. If the “government” of Haiti seriously want help reach out to China and Russia, and the U.S will send half the army to Haiti.
I try not to respond to people who are purposely rude, but I want to make this point.
When a country (or person) asks for help, and you don't want to give it and don't think it's a good thing to support, offering a very little (and 5 million is a VERY, VERY little) is a good way to put an end to the request. Refusing to act at all leaves the door open to their continued pleas because you haven't responded yet. If you give a small amount in cash, and offer tutorials and maybe some software support on securing their assets, you've responded and made it clear this is it.
And I'm not going to continue this conversation with you if you don't cut the snark.
Giving a very small amount is a tried and true diplomatic, and legal staple. As in, offer some tiny amount in your will to someone you wish to actually write out of the will, because in court it's obvious the deceased didn't actually forget about Jane. The deceased just didn't wish to give her much.
So you don't care what happens to Haiti and by tossing them a mere $5 million it will shut them up and make you feel better ???
From the article: In Washington, a senior Biden administration official said that F.B.I. and Department of Homeland Security officials would go to Port-au-Prince “as soon as possible” to assess how to help. The official also said, “There are no plans to provide U.S. military assistance at this time.”
Watch the History channel, you might learn something.
Yeah, I would learn about Ice Road Truckers.
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) in proposing Biden send a group of strangers (or as you might call them "a foreign govt") $5,000,000 of our dollars, but in reality you are coming off as quite unhinged.
