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Old 07-10-2021, 03:13 AM
 
Location: Canada
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A while back, I read an article(can't remember where) stating the governor of Alaska in the mid sixties offered the state of California all the water it could ever need for free, and all that would be required was a pipeline under the ocean from Alaska to California, paid for by California,, and the governor of California turned it down.
Building a pipeline like that wouldn't have been possible to do back then and it still isn't possible now. I think the governor of California knew that and the governor of Alaska either didn't know it or was trying to scam California.

Now Alaska's pure glacial water is sold by the tanker loads by out-of-state capitalists to Asian countries who need it for the Asian computer manufacturing industry. It's the only thing they can grow quartz wafers in.

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Old 07-10-2021, 07:09 AM
 
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That's the first issue, the straw will suck up and kill any marine life that happens by. The second issue is that it takes two gallons of seawater to make one gallon of fresh. The remaining salty brine can't just be dumped back in the ocean because it will sink to the bottom and kill whatever happens to be there. It needs to be dispersed over a wide area so the brine can remix with seawater.

A desal plant near Carlsbad can make 50 million gallons of fresh water a day, but requires 38MW of electricity to do it. With California seemingly hell-bent on destroying their ability to produce dispatchable power, it might be tough to power a fleet of desal plants on "green" energy alone.
And it's expensive, desalinated water costs two to four times more than than other sources.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2014/05/...ifornia-coast/
There was a plan by Sony Bono before he died to desalinate the Salton Sea here in So. Calif. but it never happened either and probably for the same reasons.
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Old 07-10-2021, 07:11 AM
 
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Only choice we have once all fresh water runs out past 85 years from now.
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Old 07-10-2021, 07:17 AM
 
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My husband has been saying the same thing for years. Seems very logical so I have no idea why it isn't pursued.
Cost way too much and lots of trouble with filters. Look what a fail it was in Tampa.
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Old 07-10-2021, 07:18 AM
 
Location: In the middle of nowhere... and enjoying it
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A desal plant near Carlsbad can make 50 million gallons of fresh water a day, but requires 38MW of electricity to do it. With California seemingly hell-bent on destroying their ability to produce dispatchable power, it might be tough to power a fleet of desal plants on "green" energy alone.
And it's expensive, desalinated water costs two to four times more than than other sources.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2014/05/...ifornia-coast/
That desal plant currently meets about 10% of San Diego’s water demand. Long way to go still.
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Old 07-10-2021, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Eastern N.C.
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6 inches of water over a 100 mile by 100 mile area would require a trillion gallons, and you'd have to do that every month.

The scale between providing drinking water and irrigation is staggering
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Old 07-10-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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Read about the difficulties the Carlsbad desalination plant had with legal hurdles.
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Old 07-10-2021, 08:22 AM
 
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California doesn’t need desalination yet. They need to vastly improve their water capture capability.

It’s ridiculous how much water just washes away.

Other states need to get better too, but California is the biggest culprit.

I’m not sure why the climate Nazis haven’t demanded this already? My theory is that they don’t really care about the climate, they are just trying to get rich through renewable innovation.
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Old 07-10-2021, 09:06 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Now Alaska's pure glacial water is sold by the tanker loads by out-of-state capitalists to Asian countries who need it for the Asian computer manufacturing industry. It's the only thing they can grow quartz wafers in.

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very interesting, do you have a source?
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Old 07-10-2021, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Building a pipeline like that wouldn't have been possible to do back then and it still isn't possible now. I think the governor of California knew that and the governor of Alaska either didn't know it or was trying to scam California.

Now Alaska's pure glacial water is sold by the tanker loads by out-of-state capitalists to Asian countries who need it for the Asian computer manufacturing industry. It's the only thing they can grow quartz wafers in.

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A while back, I read an article(can't remember where) stating the governor of Alaska in the mid sixties offered the state of California all the water it could ever need for free, and all that would be required was a pipeline under the ocean from Alaska to California, paid for by California,, and the governor of California turned it down.
Why wouldn't it be possible to build? We have all kinds of pipelines carrying oil over thousands of miles. A pipeline carrying water wouldn't be so dangerous because if it leaked, it would only be harmless water.

A water pipeline would have to be made from something that doesn't rust
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