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Old 07-11-2021, 11:30 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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The MSM hides the truth from you. It is all true.
I don't depend on only the MSM for my information. I get my information from everything to the Swiss national newspapers (Switzerland is a neutral country with no special axe to grind) to my little local weekly paper which is slanted toward the right and everything in-between. In addition, I am the world's biggest skeptic, always questioning what is being said or written.

More importantly, I am a Democrat - a member of your so-called "left." I volunteer for my local Democratic party organization and I read and post on Democratic forums around the Internet. My fellow Democrats share my values and I would have nothing to do with them if they didn't.

It should go without saying that I want to PRESERVE morality - not destroy it; and that as a Christian, I WORSHIP God and respect the rights of others under the Constitution to worship God or not as their own consciences may dictate. I have a deep respect for the truth and I always seek to discover and PRESERVE what is true - not destroy it.


I love and value our beautiful children. Not only are they our future, they are innocents in need of our protection and guidance. My integrity demands of me that I seek to find that which is pure and true and when I do find it (all too rarely) I do my best to preserve it. Yet I am a "leftist."

When you seek to unjustly vilify and condemn an entire group of people numbering in the millions, you are also condemning each individual in that group with malice aforethought. Where is the decency and goodness in this? Where is your sense of Christian understanding and compassion? Is it possible that you are projecting and that you yourself have accepted the lies of the rightwing media such as Fox and Breitbart?

As a human being and not the false construct that you and others like you would make of me, I reject your lies and slanders about me, and I will pray for your soul.
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Old 07-11-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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When you seek to unjustly vilify and condemn an entire group of people numbering in the millions, you are also condemning each individual in that group with malice aforethought.

Like the dems are doing to conservatives?
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Old 07-11-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: 404
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Many liberals want the US to be more like Europe, but they miss some important details of what makes Europe work: smaller walkable communities and infrastructure that use less energy, and smaller nations with very local government, not a vast centralized bureaucracy covering an entire continent (the EU is dying). We will be copying some or all of that as we adapt to rising energy costs, but we won't get there through socialism, globalism, or any variety of "you must make sacrifices so I can keep my luxuries."
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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5 years ago, my local Board of Supervisors attempted to change the land use for 5 acre horse properties, in an equestrian neighborhood, to small animal land use without informing the owners or asking their permission. If the residents hadn't caught it, their property values would have been devastated.
But the residents did catch it. The system works. Ain't it grand?
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Houston
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That is a long list of grievances. Not sure who "they" are because there is no one monolithic group talking about all of the things you listed. In a lot of cases, you have one person who said something stupid on Twitter or gave a personal opinion in a newspaper OP Ed, and then a whole bunch of people think it's actually happening.

There is a lot of babble going on out there. Don't believe it all. Try to focus on the important stuff.

It's a scare tactic the right likes to try and spread. What they don't realize though is that the rest of us KNOW it's nothing more than propaganda in a futile effort to prop up their political agenda which most people don't want.
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:29 PM
 
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It's a scare tactic the right likes to try and spread. What they don't realize though is that the rest of us KNOW it's nothing more than propaganda in a futile effort to prop up their political agenda which most people don't want.

That's why many of us think some on the left are idiots. They think it's said as propaganda, when it's just the truth. There is no political agenda except to get politics out of the equation. Most people want lower taxes, constitutional freedoms honored, and laws on the books followed.
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:33 PM
 
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Default Thought Reform - 1961

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The argument continues as follows: the "old society" in China (or any non-Communist society anywhere) was (and is) evil and corrupt; this is true because of the domination of the "exploiting classes"—the landowners and the capitalists or bourgeoisie; everyone has been exposed to this type of society and therefore retains from it "evil remnants" or "ideological poisons"; only thought reform can rid him of these and make him into a "new man" in a "new society." When this argument is applied to Chinese intellectuals, it is also pointed out that they originate from the "exploiting classes" or from the closely related petite bourgeoisie, since only people from these classes had the means to acquire an education. And long philosophical treatises emphasize the need to bring the "ideology of all classes" into harmony with "objective material conditions" 2—or in other words, to blend personal beliefs with Communist-implemented social realities.

In all of this it is most important to realize that -what we see as a set of coercive maneuvers, the Chinese Communists view as a morally uplifting, harmonizing, and scientifically therapeutic experience.
https://ia902504.us.archive.org/8/it...f_Totalism.pdf
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's a scare tactic the right likes to try and spread. What they don't realize though is that the rest of us KNOW it's nothing more than propaganda in a futile effort to prop up their political agenda which most people don't want.
The statues are coming down. BLM and Antifa are burning and looting and it is peaceful.


Political correctness is changing many traditional things that stood for years.



Critical Race Theory is being taught in schools and the head of the teachers union said it will be taught while parents oppose it.


It is not all propaganda. It is happening.
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Old 07-11-2021, 12:52 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Like the dems are doing to conservatives?
It is misguided when any group mindlessly vilifies and unjustly blames the members of another group. In what way(s) do you feel unjustly attacked? Do you believe that the left doesn't show enough reverence for Trump and his followers? Do you think that we choose to invalidate the obvious suffering of white males in our society? Do you think that we should be more tolerant of white supremacists marching with tiki torches and shouting, "Jews will not replace us"? Please explicate.
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Old 07-11-2021, 01:08 PM
 
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It is misguided when any group mindlessly vilifies and unjustly blames the members of another group.

Right. That is exactly what dems, the MSM media and big tech are doing to conservatives.
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