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Old 07-11-2021, 03:34 PM
 
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There has always been a problem finding young people who want to work. I was paying $20 an hour for bagging carpet scraps in the 1980s and they were afraid they would get dirty. One of the local restaurants is offering $14 an hour to load dishes in a dishwasher and can't find anyone.

 
Old 07-11-2021, 03:46 PM
 
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It makes no sense. All of a sudden people realized they don’t like the pay for these jobs which have been paying these wages for 30 years?
Hope they are using their free time learning a trade that would pay them more, electricians, welders, construction, plumbing, landscaping etc…. Those vocations pays well in some areas and were needed long before the pandemic
 
Old 07-11-2021, 03:58 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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End the welfare programs and I'd wager there will be people applying for the jobs.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 05:10 PM
 
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End the welfare programs and I'd wager there will be people applying for the jobs.
???

To get welfare you need to be:

1. A low income guardian of an child under 16
2. A low income widow/widower
3. Disabled
4. Over 65

In the first case, you have to get a job. They only allow a max of 2 years of being without a job and you have to be in some sort of qualifying training to do so. In the second you have to get a job after ten years. In the third a disabled person can work but they will deduct the amount earned from what you get which depending on what you are doing has effects on your medical insurance and the job needs to be compatible with the disability. In the last, do you really think that shoving elderly people out to work is an good idea?

The short when labor is short wages must go up to attract people to work. Low wages that can not support people don't do society much good.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 05:29 PM
 
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I am an Commercial Electrician and if I were on unemployment with the extra thrown in I would take home as much or more than I would working.
My husband makes over $100K as a commercial electrician and the same could not be said of him.
 
Old 07-12-2021, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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One thing I noticed, there aren’t as many elderly people working these “entry level jobs” anymore. Before the pandemic I would sometimes see or person working behind the counter at a food place. I think a lot of them do it just for some extra income to supplement Social Security. I can’t help but wonder if a lot of decided to just not come back. I’ve made a few trips to the beach this summer and I have not seen a single elderly person working at any jobs that I used to see them working at. There’s also a shortage of workers from Eastern Europe, I usually see them at the beach as well. This year they were very few. Probably because of travel restrictions.
I have friends in that age group who did have part-time retail jobs before the pandemic. They decided that the risk to their health was/is too great to come back to those positions.

In any event, the OP appears to prove what many people have been saying for a very long time.
If people are paid a wage that makes it possible to feed and house themselves, then it’s a job worth having.
Otherwise…
 
Old 07-12-2021, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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This.

Too many young people think that they should start at wages that others have had to work their way to over the course of months, years or even decades.

If you want to make more money, then put in your time, gain experience and make yourself more valuable to employers like everyone else had to.

Y'all ain't nothing special.
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Amen, and add education and training. Filling the slurpee machine is no more valuable in year ten versus day one.
Too many employers rely on a model that requires that people work for peanuts.
If the workers aren’t worth a decent wage, what makes the product worth even a penny?
 
Old 07-12-2021, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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THIS!

Also Conservative, and realize that you can't have cheap labor who will work for very low wages, and then demand $15/hr. as minimum wage.

I do think the minimum wage should go up. The point of the damn thing was that so people DIDN'T live like paupers. It was supposed to be a floor for wages, that would make things easier on the lower income. It's not supposed to make you wealthy, you still have incentive to get out and make yourself a better life, but the COL has gone up much faster than minimum wage.

It absolutely WAS supposed to be something that people could live on, so those who say it was never meant to be that, are wrong. That's exactly what it was for. Again, it would not mean that you had a lot of money left over, but you were supposed to be able to afford a living, not scrambling, working multiple jobs, going to food banks, getting government assistance, etc.

I'd MUCH rather the minimum wage go up, and we cut down on people sitting at home collecting food stamps, Section 8, free medical and dental, free cell phones and plans, reduced electric costs.


All the pi$$ing and whining about how "we'll have to pay more for X, Y, and Z!" You're already paying for it, and then some, yet getting nothing out of it. With people actually working, you may pay a little more for things, but you now have the choice NOT to have to pay for some of those things.

If you make more money, you're not going to be affected all that much - not even the middle class that everyone bemoans as the 'ones who suffer'.

But, you keep allowing illegals to flow into this country, it's not going to work out.

You get one or the other, you do not get both.

Pick one.
This!
 
Old 07-12-2021, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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as for employer not willing to pay the going rate,some restaurant owners are saying if I pay $15 an hour and I sell a chicken dinner for $12.95 ,how do I break even?
Hmmm…
Are they only selling one dinner per hour?
 
Old 07-12-2021, 08:15 AM
 
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Hmmm…
Are they only selling one dinner per hour?
That would depend on how much net profit they can get from selling chicken at 12.95 and how many meals they can sell.
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