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Old 07-11-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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But wait! Conservatives told us consistently that if the nation adopted a $15/hr minimum wage that our economy would collapse! Funny how their argument against the $15/hr was demolished by the free market, the very thing they say they support.


Might as well make the min wage $15 now so the MW doesn't fall too far behind actual wages being paid in the marketplace.
I'm not one of those conservatives. I want the minimum wage increased but unless we get rid of cheap, illegal labor the greedy employers will continue to use them instead. The Democrats don't support that.

 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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Economists published a study that found that only a small percentage of the unemployed are staying home to collect UI. The majority are reluctant to return to jobs that have a high potential Covid exposure (public-facing jobs). Many of the people who were on UI are using the current shortage of job applicants to shop around for better paying jobs rather than go back to the old one.
That's nice. Covid is 99% gone. Operation WARP SPEED worked as designed.

I think the shopping for the best goes away, big time, in 7 weeks.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:25 AM
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The CEO of restaurant chain &pizza says there's no labor shortage, only a wage shortage.
He's been paying employees $16/hr since before the pandemic and says he's fully staffed.
He said he'd received more than 100 applications for each job this year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...s7b?li=BBnb7Kz

So goes the claim that we need illegal aliens here to do the jobs that Americans supposedly won't do for a fair wage.

He is a CEO of a pizza chain that has the highest markup in restaurants. Just like most chain type places, he wants to put the squeeze on the smaller better restaurants. He is full of crap! Not every restaurant can pay a lot of money, or they go bust. You know, they need to pay for quality ingredients, unlike chain garbage.

I get a kick out of people thinking all restaurants are some gold mines. Hardly. Hard work and in a lot of cases not a lot of money for it.

Chains are loving life though. Little good restaurants serving fresh food are going down the tubes. That CEO is licking his chops.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:28 AM
 
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Chains are loving life though. Little good restaurants serving fresh food are going down the tubes. That CEO is licking his chops.
Bingo. Plus chains can afford to automate more. I knew of a few which, across the chain, used tablets to nosedive labor costs. Their pre tablet pattern was 2 tipped staff/1 mw staff per section.(2 @ 3.17, 1 @ 7.25 or $13.59/section. Tablet left enough time to deep six MW staff, make waitress clean her own tables. That meant in the restaurant area (not kitchen) 54% of labor cost went bye-bye! Only had to ax 33% of heads in restaurant area to cut 54% of cost.

Automation rocks.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:31 AM
 
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Since the forced minimum wage hike many businesses are passing the additional costs on to their customers.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:36 AM
 
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That is a different argument. Are we discussing the effect of government stimulus on the labor shortage, or are we discussing minimum wage increases? Minimum wage should be a local issue, because the cost of living is so disparate from region to region.

BTW, we all worked for peanuts at one point in our lives. Hard work moves us up the ladder. If someone finds themselves working for minimum wage on a long term basis, then that would be a time for some self reflection.
Yep! And those, who previously worked for minimum wage, have reflected and moved up the ladder. Thus the employee shortage at peanut paying jobs.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:37 AM
 
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~2% of employees make minimum wage. It's an entry level job that isn't meant for one to live on.
Those 2% have moved on as minimum wage, as it stands, does not cover childcare or commute to work.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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The COLA for 2021 is 1.3 percent, increasing the average retirement benefit by $20 a month

Do you think inflation is higher than that? I do.
Higher increase than minimum wage saw.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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Yep! And those, who previously worked for minimum wage, have reflected and moved up the ladder. Thus the employee shortage at peanut paying jobs.
Great. Cutting the $300 UI bonus in 7 weeks should not concern anyone then.
 
Old 07-11-2021, 10:42 AM
 
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Since the forced minimum wage hike many businesses are passing the additional costs on to their customers.
What forced minimum wage hike?
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