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Old 07-13-2021, 11:35 AM
 
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Like I said, don't quit your day job. Unless you are a shrink, in that case - please do.

Pointing out a complete and utter lack of facts to base a position that the election was stolen is "unnecessary emphasis" and "devoid of meaningful propositions" in a thread titled Why Trump Supporters Are Angry and Believe Election Was Rigged?

OK.........
You do remember, a few weeks ago, being presented with a database filled with quantitative evidence of electoral irregularities.

Do you remember your excuse at the time for refusing to examine the evidence?

You said it was anecdotal (despite the fact anyone can see that the data is positively sourced). There is plenty of evidence of fraud, but a paucity of left-wing operatives or agitators willing, or competent enough, to examine it.
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Old 07-13-2021, 11:54 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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MAGA was/is about forcing gays back into the closet, women back into the kitchen, brown people back to the back of the bus where they belong, and a Bible into every science classroom. It was/is about bringing back 1955. Conservative Americans believe the ideal society is what America was between 1945 and 1964 and will do anything to bring back those days.
I don't want a return to "gays back into the closet, women back into the kitchen, brown people back to the back of the bus where they belong, and a Bible into every science classroom." I want a return to a society, however, that functioned reasonably well. We should be able to have both.

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Trump supporters believe the election was stolen because they're sore losers. Some might call them "snowflakes."
The "sauce rule" applies. What's sauce for the goose...

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Old 07-13-2021, 11:57 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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You do remember, a few weeks ago, being presented with a database filled with quantitative evidence of electoral irregularities.

Do you remember your excuse at the time for refusing to examine the evidence?

You said it was anecdotal (despite the fact anyone can see that the data is positively sourced). There is plenty of evidence of fraud, but a paucity of left-wing operatives or agitators willing, or competent enough, to examine it.
Deflection from anything I stated in the post you quoted aside....

"Positively sourced" like the sworn affidavit submitted by the Kraken team in MI that claims they saw: "two people hand plastic bags to Postal Service workers in Detroit and 'considered' that they could have been improperly submitting ballots"? That sort of positively sourced?

As I told you in that thread - pull out a couple of examples that you find compelling and we can chat. I have no interest in sifting through the unsubtantiated claims of whackos like the above example.
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Many things looked highly suspect as the votes were being tallied. Republican poll watchers banned from watching the polls. An entire county in Michigan that initially got the vote total backwards, giving the larger vote tally -- votes cast for Trump -- to Biden. Everyone was lied to, told that a pipe had burst. After clearing the location, the vote counting continues without monitoring or accountability. Biden quite suddenly shot past Trump in the middle of the night in every swing state Biden won all at the same time. We are expected to believe that a sudden dump of hundreds of thousands of Biden votes just showed up, with zero Trump votes showing up along with them.

And the single biggest reason that 2020 looks like a stolen election: The Democrats are fighting like mad to prevent any and all real investigation. Their allies in Big Tech and the MSM are shutting down the conversation, refusing to let people even entertain the notion that anything untoward occurred in the 2020 election.

If serious investigations weren't being denounced, demonized and prevented at every turn by Democrats, then the perception that they have a lot to hide wouldn't gain much traction.
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:08 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Many things looked highly suspect as the votes were being tallied. Republican poll watchers banned from watching the polls. An entire county in Michigan that initially got the vote total backwards, giving the larger vote tally -- votes cast for Trump -- to Biden. Everyone was lied to, told that a pipe had burst. After clearing the location, the vote counting continues without monitoring or accountability. Biden quite suddenly shot past Trump in the middle of the night in every swing state Biden won all at the same time. We are expected to believe that a sudden dump of hundreds of thousands of Biden votes just showed up, with zero Trump votes showing up along with them.

And the single biggest reason that 2020 looks like a stolen election: The Democrats are fighting like mad to prevent any and all real investigation. Their allies in Big Tech and the MSM are shutting down the conversation, refusing to let people even entertain the notion that anything untoward occurred in the 2020 election.

If serious investigations weren't being denounced, demonized and prevented at every turn by Democrats, then the perception that they have a lot to hide wouldn't gain much traction.
Just regurgitating a bunch of conspiracy theories that have long since been refuted is not compelling.
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Just regurgitating a bunch of conspiracy theories that have long since been refuted is not compelling.
All things that actually happened. No, they have not been debunked.

But by all means, show me when these things were clearly disproven.

I do think that Trump's loss has a lot more to do with Big Tech censorship, the Left politicizing Covid-19, Hunter Biden's corruption being suppressed, and the deck being stacked against Trump across the board. (Can anyone name me even one debate moderator that they honestly believe voted for Trump in 2016 or 2020?) Trump's own obnoxious personality hurt him plenty. Biden winning the election wasn't exactly surprising. It's more likely than not that the Dems didn't need to cheat to get it done. Doesn't mean they didn't cheat.

There has never been a single election in US history where some degree of cheating and shady electoral practices did not occur. The BS that we're being sold is that 2020 was the first time that absolutely nothing shady/illegal/dishonest happened. If you're buying that, I just happen to own the Brooklyn Bridge and I'll sell it to you at a very reasonable price.
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:21 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Just regurgitating a bunch of conspiracy theories that have long since been refuted is not compelling.
I'm a lot more level-headed than most of the conspiratists, to coin a phrase, but I found the Atlanta "pipe burst" a bit much.
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Many things looked highly suspect as the votes were being tallied. Republican poll watchers banned from watching the polls. An entire county in Michigan that initially got the vote total backwards, giving the larger vote tally -- votes cast for Trump -- to Biden. Everyone was lied to, told that a pipe had burst. After clearing the location, the vote counting continues without monitoring or accountability. Biden quite suddenly shot past Trump in the middle of the night in every swing state Biden won all at the same time. We are expected to believe that a sudden dump of hundreds of thousands of Biden votes just showed up, with zero Trump votes showing up along with them.
Didn't happen.
Corrected within a few hours.
Didn't happen.
Didn't happen.
Didn't happen.

Boy, when you fall for a lie, you fall hard!
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:28 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I'm a lot more level-headed than most of the conspiratists, to coin a phrase, but I found the Atlanta "pipe burst" a bit much.
Things get misreported. It happens.

Bottom line is that it had no impact and poll watchers were still present the entire time votes were being counted.
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Old 07-13-2021, 12:29 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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All things that actually happened...
Except for Antrim County's SNAFU with the software patch, no, none of it "actually happened".
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