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Old 07-11-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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there is an excellent article that I would like to post but I KNOW what the outcome would be...

it explains how this movement started again and is gaining power --

How, for instance, Glenn Beck made "guilt by association" an artform.

McCarthy was fond of referring to the “Democrat Party” – using the term as a slur, i.e., "lefties", commies, ...

The refusal to use the correct term “Democratic Party” was so associated with McCarthy that it went out of style for decades, but the rhetorical tactic was resurrected and embraced by the Karl Rove-Newt Gingrich-Frank Luntz Republican Party of today.

No doubt, McCarthyism is alive and well and is embraced by many in the Republican party.

And, it's getting worse.
It's amazing how you can have things so totally backwards. Trump delayed Marxism for a few years, but not it is alive and well, living in the White House and doing every thing in the leftist power to destroy America.
You get to explain to your grandchildren how you helped the cause.
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Old 07-11-2021, 03:32 PM
 
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It's amazing how you can have things so totally backwards. Trump delayed Marxism for a few years, but not it is alive and well, living in the White House and doing every thing in the leftist power to destroy America.
You get to explain to your grandchildren how you helped the cause.
It is amazing how people deny and twist the truth when confronted.

Trump didn't delay anything except the middle class tax increase that starts this year that they put through as a tax cut..

I hate to think how the history books will describe the Trump years or how grandparents will explain their allegiance to him.
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Old 07-11-2021, 05:51 PM
 
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This former John Bircher, Claire Connor, who joined it at age 13, would profoundly disagree.
Claire Connor sound like a globalist shill. All the things she criticized the John Birch Society for, I see as virtues. One of Claire Connor’s main gripes with the John Birch Society is that her parents were racist. That’s on her parents, not the John Birch Society. What she calls “social safety nets”, unemployment compensation, medicare, social security, unemployment benefits, federally funded education, food stamps, etc, are programs that steal money from peaceful people and give it to others who haven’t earned it. It’s patently un-American.

Reducing the federal government by 60% and eliminating federal income tax are excellent ideas!

The Tea Party was an awesome group that educated people on the US Constitution. We advocated Constitutionally limited government, fiscal responsibility, and free trade. It taught people to use the election system to create change, instead of going to a civil war (which some were about ready to do).

This is a good place to start to learn more about what the John Birch Society is doing these days:
THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SOLUTION
https://jbs.org/constitution/video/
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:04 PM
 
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Sounds like it may take a government 'boot' on their necks before they get it. Then it will be too late...
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:07 PM
 
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It's amazing how you can have things so totally backwards. Trump delayed Marxism for a few years, but not it is alive and well, living in the White House and doing every thing in the leftist power to destroy America.
You get to explain to your grandchildren how you helped the cause.
Do they get it backwards because they just doing realize what's happening or is it intentional - propaganda?
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:07 PM
 
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Of course this time around.... ...
Who will be or is the New Joseph McCarthy?
along with most of your ramblings, punctuated by oddly-placed all-CAPS proclamations and nothing of data or information, we can add this link-less screed to the list.
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:10 PM
 
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It is amazing how people deny and twist the truth when confronted.

Trump didn't delay anything except the middle class tax increase that starts this year that they put through as a tax cut..

I hate to think how the history books will describe the Trump years or how grandparents will explain their allegiance to him.
If you were paying attention, you would see that President Trump had set the globalist's take over of our country back almost a couple decades.
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:30 PM
 
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Very much agreed here. The current "woke liberals are just communists in disguise" is basically just a rehashing of the 1950s Red Scare. At the very least MAGA, QAnon, and the "Trump is our greatest-ever pro-Christian President" types are roughly analogous to the mid-20th Century's John Birch Society (water fluoridation is a communist plot, and in general seeing communists behind every lamppost, if not blade of grass).[1] Conservative isn't the proper term for these people, they're so reactionary they can't even see that sometimes at least incremental or less broad-based moves away from the conventional way of doing things are necessary. The proper term for these types are Reactionary, or maybe just plain paranoid.



[1]As an aside, the "racial realists" for sure are like (and even contain) the KKK. The Proud Boys are pretty much the KKK with the rhetorical fig leaf of "culture" and not "race" ("West is Best!", etc.).
Is it really though?

China - 1961 "Thought Reform"
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The argument continues as follows: the "old society" in China (or any non-Communist society anywhere) was (and is) evil and corrupt; this is true because of the domination of the "exploiting classes"—the landowners and the capitalists or bourgeoisie; everyone has been exposed to this type of society and therefore retains from it "evil remnants" or "ideological poisons"; only thought reform can rid him of these and make him into a "new man" in a "new society." When this argument is applied to Chinese intellectuals, it is also pointed out that they originate from the "exploiting classes" or from the closely related petite bourgeoisie, since only people from these classes had the means to acquire an education. And long philosophical treatises emphasize the need to bring the "ideology of all classes" into harmony with "objective material conditions" 2—or in other words, to blend personal beliefs with Communist-implemented social realities.
https://ia902504.us.archive.org/8/it...f_Totalism.pdf

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America - 2021 "Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Training"
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The argument continues as follows: the "slave ownership" in America was (and is) evil and corrupt; this is true because of the domination of the "slave owners"—the white supremacist and the capitalists; everyone has been exposed to this type of society and therefore retains from it "white supremacy" or "white privilege"; only CRT can rid him/her/them/it/ze of these and make him/her/them/it/ze into a "new him/her/them/it/ze" in a "new equitable society." When this argument is applied to American intellectuals, it is also pointed out that they originate from the "white supremacists" or from the closely related white adjacent/passing, since only people from these races had the means to acquire an education. And long philosophical treatises emphasize the need to bring the "ideology of all races" into harmony with "objective material conditions" 2—or in other words, to blend personal beliefs with racially-implemented social realities.
Maybe if the "revolution" wasn't being carried out by "revolutionaries" within the system using taxpayer dollars to try and destroy America it wouldn't have been so bad.

Then they got busted trying to indoctrinate children. After gaslighting the entire country for months on end. Then they come out and say "yeah, we're using CRT and we have a $5 million defense fund." I know right? I bet that infuriated you... Never mind that they're using psychological manipulation on children for economic and political change.

Of course they've been liars from day one. They're only using race to get the Trojan Horse into the city. They were always liars and they've been plotting this for decades.

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Today, the rupture with the linguistic universe of the Establishment is more radical: in the most militant areas of protest, it amounts to a methodical reversal of meaning. It is a familiar phenomenon that sub-cultural groups develop their own language, taking the harmless words of everyday communication out of their context and using them for designating objects or activities tabooed by the Establishment. This is the Hippie subculture: “trip,” “grass,” “pot,” “acid,” and so on. But a far more subversive universe of discourse announces itself in the language of black militants. Here is a systematic linguistic rebellion, which smashes the ideological context in which the words are employed and defined, and places them into the opposite context – negation of the established one.[16] Thus, the blacks “take over” some of the most sublime and sublimated concepts of Western civilization, desublimate them, and redefine them.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/a...liberation.htm

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Critical theory, including critical legal theory, can be intimidating to the reader. It lends itself to long and ponderous philosophical disquisitions, Latinate constructions, and complicated terminology full of specialized meanings.
http://blogs.law.columbia.edu/abolit...Critique-1.pdf

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Consequently, it was his view that "one should refrain from facile rhetoric about direct attacks against the State and concentrate instead on the difficult and immensely complicated tasks that a 'war of position' within civil society entails" (Buttigieg, 2005:41). Described by Gramsci as "the only viable possibility in the West," a 'war of position' is resistance to domination with culture, rather than physical might, as its foundation (Gramsci, 2007:168). Cox succinctly describes a 'war of position' as process which "slowly builds up the strength of the social foundations of a new state" by "creating alternative institutions and alternative intellectual resources within existing society" (Cox, 1983:165). For Gramsci, issues of culture are what lie at the heart of any revolutionary project; culture is "how class is lived," it shapes how people see their world and how they maneuver within in it and, more importantly, "it shapes their ability to imagine how it might be changed, and whether they see such changes as feasible or desirable" (Crehan, 2002:71). The complex program of radical social change in a modern liberal democracy, as described by Gramsci, involves more than anything, developing a strong and dynamic culture capable of establishing the necessary institutions for a subversion of hegemony.
https://warofposition.com/94

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As the reader will see, critical race theory builds on the insights of two previous movements, critical legal studies and radical feminism, to both of which it owes a large debt. It also draws from certain European philosophers and theorists, such as Antonio Gramsci and Jacques Derrida.
https://uniteyouthdublin.files.wordp...okfi-org-1.pdf

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From Kafka +‎ trap, coined in a July 2010 blog post (see the quotation below) by the American software developer and author Eric S. Raymond (born 1957) in reference to the book Der Proceß (The Trial, 1925) by the Bohemian author Franz Kafka (1883–1924), in which a man is accused of crimes that are never specified.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kafkatrap

They've literally pulled everything out of their playbook for this "war of position" and as well all know the goal because they made that clear a long time ago.

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’Tis the final conflict
Let us unite and tomorrow,
The International
Will be the human race
https://www.marxists.org/history/uss...ernational.htm

So there's all that...

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Old 07-11-2021, 06:33 PM
 
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It's amazing how you can have things so totally backwards. Trump delayed Marxism for a few years, but not it is alive and well, living in the White House and doing every thing in the leftist power to destroy America.
You get to explain to your grandchildren how you helped the cause.
So what did McCarthy delay? In the end that came quick due to his Alcoholism. Did he delay a TAKEOVER of the US to Communism?

You do realize that McCarthy started his Army was infiltrated by Commies in 1950. His infamous Congressional hearings he ended up in disgrace by was in 1954.

So he delayed Communism takeover of the US for 5-decades and Donald Trump you feel delayed it what? Yes so many of the most extremist who see Trump as this savior.... still cannot claim even as McCarthy did with the Army ... and to other Government agencies infiltrated in a Communist taking over fully infiltrated its ranks.

That was him so extreme it was far from just a Hollywood/elite Peddo takeover. He accused all sorts of people and lost the American public opinion by LIVE Hearings on TV.... even though most Americans did not have a TV then and see his claims LIVE and HOW he presented his CASE without PROOF.

Donald Trump DID NOT RUN on a Communist Takeover. He clearly gained a bone-to-pick with China yet Left Russia alone and Respected Putin A FORMER KGB man who sealed his Power we believe with dubious means and passed legislation to basically be Czar for life. It would be a Coup for him to lose Power now.

Did Nixon and Ford and Reagan delay a Communist Takeover? How .... but being what many Trumpist see as RINOS? We know how much Reagan Conservatives who questioned some of Trumps antics were DEMONIZED by Donald Trump. CANCEL Them is basically Trump's way telling his Base to FIRE THEM. Replace them with only MY Supporters who LOVE HIM. To love him is to give him full Authority more and more that with a Congress he would secure.

Still a constant Delay is so difficult to lay any credentials too. No one accused the US of being so infiltrated as a takeover at hand between McCarthyism and Trumpism that was not there at first. It evolved by endless claims only he could save America and many followed it.

So did the US save Europe from Communism during Donald Trump's Term also? He accused and dissed them and basically told them.... we refuse to save you.... you save yourself. Perhaps they did and therefore does Trump get credit for a more united Europe at least in NATO. and not as the EU with the departure of England etc.'

Also is DEEP STATE and YOUR FIRED or FORCED TO RESIGN mean one is a Communist if they turned against Trump? Seems many instantly turn on them as Trump. If a true Trumpist with a taking no Prisoners and CANCEL THEM. We still have those who see half of their own Party as RINOS.

Is being labeled a RINO mean one is a Communist ENABLER? Therefore much of the Party is already deceived to function?
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:37 PM
 
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If you were paying attention, you would see that President Trump had set the globalist's take over of our country back almost a couple decades.
I've been paying attention.

Glossary of Extremist Language:

Alt-Right, Alt-Left, Antifa, leftist, liberal, woke, commie, cancel culture, globalist, ****, s.j.w., Marxist, RINO..

What am I forgetting???

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