Will new gun owners, Democrats/liberals, give up their guns to the government? (Obama, revolution)

[arleigh]

There seems to have been a surge in gun buying by democrats that hated guns now buying them for protection.
Riots and the talk of defunding the police amplify the fears obviously but if democrats take away gun rights will you give them up?

[Driver 47]

Guns ? *Looks around* What guns ?

[Colorado Rambler]

I read somewhere that Dems started buying more guns after the 1/6 insurrection because they were concerned that Trump supporters were seriously going to start a civil war. In that case, I imagine the Dems would/would not give up their guns to the "government" depending on which side won.

[bawac34618]

Originally Posted by arleigh

There seems to have been a surge in gun buying by democrats that hated guns now buying them for protection.
Riots and the talk of defunding the police amplify the fears obviously but if democrats take away gun rights will you give them up?

There's a difference between hating guns and believing there should be some restrictions to keep guns out of the hands at those who shouldn't have them.

And nobody from the government is coming to take anybody's guns. That's pure paranoid fantasy that the right has been indulging in for decades.

[Frank DeForrest]

Its really foolish to say what the govt will or wont do after it stopped people from living last year ( and in some cases still doing it). But whats the point anyway? Its not like anyone is going to use them against the govt.
I think on some level, its a benefit to the state to let the citizenry keep them, because as long as they own a gun, they actually believe they are free...and in the meantime theyll put up with every other edict used against them.
Don't believe me? Look at all the people who obediently stayed home when ordered to and did so to their own financial, physical and mental detriment...but hey I gotta have all these guns in a safe in case we have to have another revolution when our govt gets out of line

[andywire]

Originally Posted by Colorado Rambler

I read somewhere that Dems started buying more guns after the 1/6 insurrection because they were concerned that Trump supporters were seriously going to start a civil war. In that case, I imagine the Dems would/would not give up their guns to the "government" depending on which side won.

You mean the constant rampant burning down of Portland, Seattle and other far left meccas had no influence on their decisions to arm themselves???

[Roboteer]

Originally Posted by bawac34618

There's a difference between hating guns and believing there should be some restrictions to keep guns out of the hands at those who shouldn't have them.

Yes, you're right. There is a MAJOR difference between the two.

To "hate guns", you don't have to get the government involved. You can sit there and hate hate hate all you want, for day after day, month after month. And there is no harm done.

But to enact restrictions to keep guns out of the hands of those who "shouldn't have them", you have to do several things.
1.) First you must give government the power to decide who should and shouldn't have guns.
2.) Then you must give government the authority to make laws preventing people chosen by the government, from owning guns.
3.) Then you must give government the power to ban guns from the people they chose to ban.
4.) You must also give government the power to confiscate the guns that people chosen by the government, already own.

This is not a new idea. The founders of the country considered all four things carefully. And they debated whether
(a) any of these four things were even physically possible for government to carry out;
(b) what advantages could the country get from government having this newfound authority; and
(c) what disadvantages would come to the country from government having this newfound authority.

And they decided almost unanimously that the disadvantages hugely outweighed any advantages of giving government the power to decide who should own guns and who shouldn't; and giving govt the power to ban guns from part of the population; and giving govt the power to confiscate guns from as much of the population that govt specified.

The founders were students of world history as it was known at the time. And they knew well that a government with that extra authority, would almost always crack down on more and more of their population, restricting and banning more and more. In fact, the first shots of the Revolution that the founders had just gone through, were fired in response to a large, oppressive government taking the power to take away the colonists' guns, and then actually trying to confiscate them.

This is a unique occasion. Little bawac34618 actually got one right. There IS a major difference between "hating guns" and getting government to make restrictions keeping guns out of the hands of people the government thinks "shouldn't have them".

It just wasn't the difference he expected.

[Jowel]

Originally Posted by arleigh

There seems to have been a surge in gun buying by democrats that hated guns now buying them for protection.
Riots and the talk of defunding the police amplify the fears obviously but if democrats take away gun rights will you give them up?

I don't know.

But since you seem to be so knowledgeable on the fact that "they're coming to get 'yer guns", do you realize how many people in this country own guns? How long will it take for them to be confiscated? How many Democrats will need to be mobilized to come take them all? What do you think their plan of action will be? Why hasn't this already happened like everybody said it would when Obama was President?

[Roboteer]

Originally Posted by Jowel

Why hasn't this already happened like everybody said it would when Obama was President?

Because normal people fought them like tigers and they saw they were starting to lose votes every time they talked about their so-called "gun control".