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Old 07-15-2021, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is the first time in my life I wouldn't recommend someone join today's military.
There were several former secretaries of defense that were concerned with Trump's behavior not just Miley, but if you have an issue with us adopting the Venezuelan or Turkish military models then by all means tell them not to join.

 
Old 07-15-2021, 06:26 PM
 
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If it doesn't eliminate voters fine, but we know that some will be eliminated.

We haven't had voter ID's for decades so why is this so important now, what generated this and other laws certainly isn't because of fraud.
If it eliminates those who shouldn’t vote, then that’s a plus. Our state I always had to show either my voter registration card or Driver’s license, we never had a problem. How do you know there wasn’t fraud? I don’t buy the claim that people can’t get a ID, sorry you have to show ID for a lot of services.
 
Old 07-15-2021, 06:29 PM
 
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There were several former secretaries of defense that were concerned with Trump's behavior not just Miley, but if you have an issue with us adopting the Venezuelan or Turkish military models then by all means tell them not to join.
It’s not just because of the mean “President”, from what I heard from those who had just retired out, they were pretty concerned. I don’t know the details, but they said it.
 
Old 07-15-2021, 06:33 PM
 
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Well it was perhaps the closest this country has come to a non-peaceful transfer of power. I wasn't unhappy to see the former President get on that plane and leave at the end.
Me neither.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
 
Old 07-15-2021, 06:39 PM
 
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Thought that Trump had led America to a “Reichstag moment” where he was fabricating charges of election fraud as an excuse to retain power by a coup after he lost the election.



https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...to-hitler.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...fa8_story.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/polit...+-+Politics%29
Milley predication was on point. Exactly, what Milley had predicated, Donald Trump and his dumb followers tried, but failed.

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Old 07-15-2021, 09:22 PM
 
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Thought that Trump had led America to a “Reichstag moment” where he was fabricating charges of election fraud as an excuse to retain power by a coup after he lost the election.



https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...to-hitler.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...fa8_story.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/polit...+-+Politics%29
I totally agree with the General. Trump was going to bring this country to it's knees. I breathed a huge sigh of relief when he left.
 
Old 07-16-2021, 09:25 AM
 
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So is he admitting they would use any means necessary for Trump to not be re-elected?

Implicitly Biased
JACL
 
Old 07-16-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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If it doesn't eliminate voters fine, but we know that some will be eliminated.

We haven't had voter ID's for decades so why is this so important now, what generated this and other laws certainly isn't because of fraud.
inversely ...


again, some states have had Voter ID for quite some time. Some states have attempted to start Voter ID and failed in past years.

you cannot say with certainty "we know" it will eliminate any voter. You may expect it to, so why not work on where you think those expectations are? ie, it's not "We can't have voter ID because Millie in Minnesota is 95 years old and doesn't have the documents for an ID". No, it's "What can we do to help Millie get a valid ID?"

You don't make rules governing 100% of the people because some incredibly small minority. In a 2016 survey, ~97% of registered voters throughout the country said they had a currently valid form of ID.

from this article: https://checkyourfact.com/2018/12/02...ment-photo-id/

https://dataverse.harvard.edu/datase...910/DVN/Y38VIQ

Obviously some # of people had more motivation in 2020 to vote. If they were able to be motivated, shouldn't we all be expected to have enough motivation to get an ID?

How do people get registered to vote in the first place, if they have no ID?
 
Old 07-16-2021, 12:18 PM
 
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That's silly. He's not relying on any "intelligence", just like the Bush administration did not rely on any "intelligence" in claiming that Hussein had WMD's. Like the Bush administration, Milley is just making stuff up to serve a pre-determined agenda, which should be obvious when what he says makes no sense.

Milley's statement that he feared Trump would launch a coup is self-refuting. He knows full well that no coup is possible without the military, and no one knew better than Milley that the military was *not* going to help Trump.

Milley is a pathological liar and an authoritarian thug.
Did not realize you rank above Milley and he apparently reports to you. My bad...
Yes, it is "your bad" to accept a stupid lie at face value instead of using your brain to analyze it and reject it.
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