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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 29 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by 2mares
Oh man how torn up you are over a simple question.
Saying that I never said it wasnt a human being is not the same as saying it is a human being.
Saying to my knowledge an 8 week fetus can not live outside the womb is not its a human being that can not live outside the womb.
Can you see these statement are not the same.
Because people died during the great depression or due to famine is not the same as you no longer receive food stamps so you die. One is not attached to government assistance.
Get a grip.
You quote specifically shows a fetus is not a Person or does not have the status of personhood.
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Originally Posted by 2mares
Saying to my knowledge an 8 week fetus can not live outside the womb is not its a human being that can not live outside the womb.
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Originally Posted by 2mares
Never said they are not alive. Never said it was not a human being.
Which of those statements do you want to go with in the debate, the first one or second one? To be honest the first one reads like your drunk.
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 29 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Golden Hair Surprise
Take short trip back in history and you will see nothing but men oppressing women's rights.
It was not that long ago that a female could attend college. In 1891 Marie Curie (won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1911) enrolled in college and had a very difficult time due to being scoffed at by a male dominated university.
In the US women were not allowed to vote until 1920! And even then not all women were granted that right.
Don't blame it on TX men, it's been the men all throughout history that have held women down. Sadly, it still exits today.
It was men that talked, Norma Leah Nelson McCorvey, into being the face behind the bill and it was men who gave women their right to abort.
PS: leave it to a man to get the woman to help them get out of a tight spot, as well as convincing the woman it was her idea in the first place.
Last edited by Ellis Bell; 07-16-2021 at 06:31 PM..
The surely don’t in Texas. I made my military husband drive me back to Fl 2 weeks before I was due. Refused to deliver my baby there.
Most backward state period! Not all the people, but those politicians - ugh
You made him drive you to a red state of all things?
Maybe those families should manage themselves and their finances so they can pay for their own healthcare.
Maybe people should understand how economics work, and understand that putting the government in the revenue stream of the health care industry has grossly inflated the costs of health care so that it is unaffordable for 97% of the people. And the answer for affordable health care is NO government, and not more government.
Freedom is not forcing me to pay for someone else's healthcare through the tax and spend system.
Freedom is not forcing me to pay for abortions that murders innocent human beings.
That has nothing to do with me.
Maybe you make these types of life decisions based on what others think. I don't.
It’s murder in your opinion.
Your two stances are contradictory and hypocritical.
I agree with you about no government re healthcare, but then you want the government to get involved in a woman’s decision.
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Originally Posted by RMESMH
It’s murder in your opinion.
Your two stances are contradictory and hypocritical.
I agree with you about no government re healthcare, but then you want the government to get involved in a woman’s decision.
The government shouldn't get involved and neither should taxpayer funds be involved. Taxpayer funding should be used for birth control and for other health related expenses, just not for abortion...unless the woman is on deaths door or is a pregnant child.
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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 29 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by bluesjuke
Your Mom had human babies did she not?
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Originally Posted by RMESMH
And before they were babies, they were fetuses.
Fetuses aren’t babies.
If a fetus isn't an offspring (baby) of homo sapiens --- please define it the different way in which you see it. Does it begin as one thing, and then transitions to another?
I'm 58 and my great grandmother attended Cumberlin college. My mom has several college degrees and she's 88 years old. When you say "not that long ago" are we talking 200 years?
What rights don't women have today?
Could your great grandma vote? Her entry into college was the result of the first wave of women wanting the vote. A friend older than your mom got a PhD in Chemistry. She was still unemployable in her county. But there were some women lucky enough to get jobs according to their talents. That mostly went away with the depression, war and then the returning men. All these women who did all kinds of jobs were told to go home so as to make way for the returning men.
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