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Are you asking me?
I asked a simple question about a statement that was made regarding independent blood and circulatory systems. I said nothing about a fetus right to life. I think the SCOTUS made a decision on that.
If being dependent on another to live --- those who are dependent on the government don't have rights either.
Can something that isn’t living grow, move, sucks their thumb, move around in the womb? My sister in law had to have a either sonogram or ultrasound because they thought she was having problems and even though my nephew was a embryo, he was moving around. So was he alive or only comes to life outside the womb? You guys are supposed to believe in science
Never questioned that.
I asked to define independent blood and circulatory system. I did not question whether a fetus was a living organisms.
You missed a post --- because they are dependent --- they do not have the right to life, outside the womb? Which in essence means --- those who are dependent on the government don't have rights either.
I did not miss anything I was responding to this post:
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An embryo and a human aren't the same thing.
When a being has its own separate blood and circulatory system, it's a human being. Abortion sheds innocent blood.
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Originally Posted by 2mares
I' not necessary trying to make a point. I'm questioning a statement that does not sound correct to my understanding. I asked because the poster said "When a being has its own separate blood and circulatory system, it's a human being"
begs the question, what is considered its own separate blood and circulatory system. If it is ones own it is independent of another's thus able to survive without dependency on another's blood and/or circulatory system. To my knowledge a 8 week fetus is dependent on its mothers blood and circulatory system and can not survive outside the womb at this point in time without it.
Just because they depend on the mother to survive does not mean they are not alive. A born baby still depends on a person to survive and will die without that support. If a person, no matter what age, is solely dependent on another to receive food and drink does that mean that person isn't alive?
If being dependent on another to live --- those who are dependent on the government don't have rights either.
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good point. they seem to be confirming that it's fine to withhold government support from those who would die without it
Quite a humongous leap you made there.
What does defining own separate blood and circulatory system in regards to being a human being have to do with needing government assistance?
If being dependent on another to live --- those who are dependent on the government don't have rights either.
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Originally Posted by 2mares
Quite a humongous leap you made there.
What does defining own separate blood and circulatory system in regards to being a human being have to do with needing government assistance?
It is not a leap at all, but exactly what you are saying --- it is alive but it can not live on its own, so therefore it has no rights to life. A person who can not live independent on their own, but are dependent on someone else for survival --- does not have the right to life.
Just because they depend on the mother to survive does not mean they are not alive. A born baby still depends on a person to survive and will die without that support. If a person, no matter what age, is solely dependent on another to receive food and drink does that mean that person isn't alive?
Never said they are not alive. Never said it was not a human being. Read what I actually said instead making up what you want me to have said.
The statement I responded to claims defining a human being is when it has a separate circulatory system and separate blood. Define separate circulatory system and separate blood. To my knowledge a fetus still relies on the blood and circulatory system of the mother and without it would die. IMO that does not constitute a separate system.
Political pandering nanny state at its finest. Thank god I don’t live in these backward states.
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