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Old 07-19-2021, 07:40 AM
 
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It's funny that everyone buys this idea that immigrants are flooding here because it's so dangerous in their countries. If that is true why aren't people from St. Louis and Chicago slipping into South America? Most South American countries have a lower homicide rate than those 2 cities.
Because it's a lie. These so-called migrants are coming here for economic opportunity on the backs of the U.S. taxpayer/worker.
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Old 07-19-2021, 08:08 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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I hope a civil war breaks out sooner than later. If it doesn't happen soon enough I'll be too old to volunteer.

Alas, it can't really happen. There is no secession movement. There is no breakaway group of states or units within states that are willing to form their own country or offer themselves to be annexed to another country for the United States military to fight. Most of our conflict is internal. There is nothign to break away from. There is nowhere to invade. It is present in every single jurisdiction. There is nowhere in the country where Republicans and Democrats do not co-exist. In the reddest of red states there are at least 20% or so Democrats. In the bluest of blue cities there are at least 10% Republicans. Most of us live in a jurisdiction that is split somewhere between 40% on one side and 60% on the other. So if you talk about civil war... it doesn't matter WHERE you are, you are going to have to fight your neighbors.

A war can't be fought that way. Maybe some kind of guerilla insurrections or terrorist actions.
Most civil wars are not like our first. It was an outlier. Most civil wars are not states seceding and conventional armies forming following those seceding governments. Most civil wars are guerilla type conflicts with plenty of what would be termed "terrorism" by some, often focused on primarily government officials.
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Old 07-19-2021, 08:14 AM
 
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Wanting to start a civil war and Kill people because they don't think like you, vote for the same candidate as you or agree with you....
Besides being the most 'snowflake' thing that I have ever heard of....do you
really think you can ever get 332 hundred million people to agree on anything? Good Luck with that.
Just go back to sleep. This is entirely too complicated for you. Whenever you wake up if you’d like to investigate this further you can start on page 420 in this book and you might start to understand that this isn’t about a small little incident or what happened over an election or two, although that’s important as well.

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Milieu Control. This involves the control of information and communication both within the environment and, ultimately, within the individual, resulting in a significant degree of isolation from society at large.

Mystical Manipulation. The manipulation of experiences that appears spontaneous but is, in fact, planned and orchestrated by the group or its leaders to demonstrate divine authority, spiritual advancement, or some exceptional talent or insight that sets the leader and/or group apart from humanity, and that allows a reinterpretation of historical events, scripture, and other experiences. Coincidences and happenstance oddities are interpreted as omens or prophecies.

Demand for Purity. The world is viewed as black and white and the members are constantly exhorted to conform to the ideology of the group and strive for perfection. The induction of guilt and/or shame is a powerful control device used here.

Confession. Sins, as defined by the group, are to be confessed either to a personal monitor or publicly to the group. There is no confidentiality; members' "sins," "attitudes," and "faults" are discussed and exploited by the leaders.

Sacred Science. The group's doctrine or ideology is considered to be the ultimate Truth, beyond all questioning or dispute. Truth is not to be found outside the group. The leader, as the spokesperson for God or all humanity, is likewise above criticism.

Loading the Language. The group interprets or uses words and phrases in new ways so that often the outside world does not understand. This jargon consists of thought-terminating clichés, which serve to alter members' thought processes to conform to the group's way of thinking.

Doctrine over person. Members' personal experiences are subordinated to the sacred science and any contrary experiences must be denied or reinterpreted to fit the ideology of the group.

Dispensing of existence. The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not. This is usually not literal but means that those in the outside world are not saved, unenlightened, unconscious, and must be converted to the group's ideology. If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the members. Thus, the outside world loses all credibility. In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also.
https://ia902504.us.archive.org/8/it...f_Totalism.pdf

Once you realize that one side of the isle is not only claiming supremacy of the state over all individuals, they’re also claiming, to some degree, that people’s children are not theirs and they do not get to be in charge of what they’re taught and what “practices” are used on them.

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Crenshaw—who coined the term “CRT”—notes that CRT is not a noun, but a verb. It cannot be confined to a static and narrow definition but is considered to be an evolving and malleable practice.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/c...l-race-theory/

That wouldn’t be so bad but the neo-Marxist who want to indoctrinate our children and destroy the history and structures of this country also want us to pay them handsomely to do so and provide them with houses and cars and scholarships and “test subjects” and food… if they’re cut off they will gather up their terrorist orgs (BLM, Antifa, The Squad, Pussyhate Brigade…) to cause social unrest and use violence until they get their way. Then they blame it on someone else and demand more money, resources, media coverage, etc.

Every single resource people have, use, provide, etc. should be questioned as to whether it is supporting the demise of this country. If it is it needs to be stopped and the word spread about who and what the org is and how it is supporting the destruction of society.

They don’t know how to run anything (except into the ground) and as far as they’re concerned that’s okay because good economies and capitalist products stop the revolution from happening because of some fantasy about the opioid effects of having a better life. That needs heavy and never ending criticism.

https://youtu.be/OBaY09Qi-w0
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Old 07-19-2021, 09:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The left/dems are ruining the country a little more each day. I honestly hate to see it. It's hard watching it in real time. They are working at this as fast as they can.

There has to be something we can do than just standing by and watching it happen. Is war the only way to try to put a stop to it? I feel it's either going to be a war or separation of the states.

I wish republican governors could do more.

Them taking free speech away from us and spending money we don't have and giving away all these hand outs and dividing us more and more each day. It's just been 6 months and it will only get worse.

Yes, Facebook, etc are private companies but now we have the CEOs of big tech dictating what information is given to the masses and they are allowed to work with the federal government. They want to brainwash us all. All this crap is real. I just can't wrap my head around how all this is allowed.

I feel if the White House keeps this up, they will have enough people angered to where a civil war will happen. People will start fighting in the streets across the nation and it will spread. In my life, I've never seen this country in such a way that it's in now. It's scary.
It is very well explained and documented, in the Declaration of Independence. The very first legal Document of this place we now call Merica.
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Old 07-19-2021, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Didn't even think of vaccines. First thing that comes to mind is someone coming to take your child away for a gender reassignment procedure, trying to confiscate a weapon, or something like taking you in for something a woke cultist was offended by that you posted online

None of those things are rational concerns.
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Old 07-19-2021, 11:28 AM
 
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At what point is Civil War warranted?
If Trump runs for President in 2024
and if he lost again in a very tight election

would that warrant civil war if his followers felt the election was rigged?
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Old 07-19-2021, 11:44 AM
 
Location: New York City
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None of those things are rational concerns.
The transgender definitely is, several left leaning states have taken consent away from parents for kids who have been convinced by others at school that they are trans and need puberty blockers and surgical interventions. In those cases the parent does not even need to be notified
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Old 07-19-2021, 11:46 AM
 
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I hope a civil war breaks out sooner than later. If it doesn't happen soon enough I'll be too old to volunteer.

Alas, it can't really happen. There is no secession movement. There is no breakaway group of states or units within states that are willing to form their own country or offer themselves to be annexed to another country for the United States military to fight. Most of our conflict is internal. There is nothign to break away from. There is nowhere to invade. It is present in every single jurisdiction. There is nowhere in the country where Republicans and Democrats do not co-exist. In the reddest of red states there are at least 20% or so Democrats. In the bluest of blue cities there are at least 10% Republicans. Most of us live in a jurisdiction that is split somewhere between 40% on one side and 60% on the other. So if you talk about civil war... it doesn't matter WHERE you are, you are going to have to fight your neighbors.

A war can't be fought that way. Maybe some kind of guerilla insurrections or terrorist actions.
My fear is that people who advocate for a civil war drag us down a path where the USA resembles Northern Ireland during the “Troubles” of the 1970s and 1980s.

A period of time where the country resembled gang warfare, destroying property, the economy, and killing and maiming thousands, all for no real purpose.

It is much better to work this out through the political process.
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Old 07-19-2021, 11:48 AM
 
Location: New York City
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My fear is that people who advocate for a civil war drag us down a path where the USA resembles Northern Ireland during the “Troubles” of the 1970s and 1980s.

A period of time where the country resembled gang warfare, destroying property, the economy, and killing and maiming thousands, all for no real purpose.

It is much better to work this out through the political process.
The troubles are absolutely coming. It will happen when the woke leftists lose all political power in 2022 and 2024 and they're going to completely flip out. We basically have 1.5 to 3.5 years of 'peace' left to get our affairs in order
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Old 07-19-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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The transgender definitely is, several left leaning states have taken consent away from parents for kids who have been convinced by others at school that they are trans and need puberty blockers and surgical interventions. In those cases the parent does not even need to be notified

Of course, you have links for this, kids being prescribed hormone blockers and having surgery without parental consent...right? And how do you know the kids were convinced by other kids that they are trans? And who is prescribing these medications and performing the surgeries?
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