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Old 07-19-2021, 10:03 AM
 
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Just what are these so-called critical statements about Latinos that Trump supposedly made? He never made any critical remarks about those here legally. Illegal aliens no matter who they are deserve to be criticized, however.
I know that. But the mob of liberal morons believe what they believe because that's what the mainstream media tell them to think.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:10 PM
 
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"The only way the immigrants get to vote" LEGALLY.

We already know they don't respect our laws just by being"illegals".

We know the steal Social Security numbers.

Many lib states give the a driver's license and allow "sanctuary cities", etc', so what is going to stop them?
I wonder why that poster keeps calling illegal aliens plain ole immigrants? Even though they can't lawfully vote there is evidence that some do since they have no morals or scruples anyway.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:31 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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Americans living on the other side of the boarder, in other words, the flip side:

Half a million American minors now live in Mexico

What does the future hold?

"The migration of U.S.-born minors from the U.S. to Mexico presents unique challenges to the minors themselves, as well as to their families and their communities.

For instance, we found that, in 2010, 53% of U.S. citizens under 18 living in Mexico did not have Mexican citizenship. Children who do not have Mexican documents cannot easily enroll in Mexican public schools. Furthermore, children who do not speak Spanish well will face problems learning in Mexican schools.

The U.S. public is concerned with the more than one million undocumented youth – or DREAMers. Many of this group live in “mixed-status families,” where at least one member is a U.S. citizen. U.S. citizen minors in Mexico also live in mixed-status families, but in some ways the challenges they face are distinct: They have the possibility for legal integration, but still face barriers to social and economic integration in Mexico."
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Old 07-19-2021, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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It is time to get real about this DACA program.
These people(regardless of age, or responsibility) entered this country illegally.
The power of reason enters our lives at an early age, so the argument that these children were unaware , is a weak one.

There are numerous ways one enters the country illegally, from climbing over, or going under a barrier.
One could arrive by small boat, or walk through a tunnel.
All of these things had to have had some meaning to these young children.
Did they think they were going for a long walk through the desert, just for kicks?
Did they think that hoping on a boat was just for a joy ride?
Taking a long ride in the back of a box truck was just a daily outing?
I just can't believer many of these young children, at the time, didn't question their parents as to where they were going, and why.

Now they are here, many settled into life in this country, so how would it be proper to send them back to the country they were born in?
Well, first off, the countries do not want them back.

My solution would be to first, punish the parents for bringing them here, perhaps with a mandatory fine, then deport them.
Second, for the 600,000 or so who have applied to the DACA program, let them stay.
From this day forward, no more applications should be taken, and processed, and DHS should work to getting the remaining ones deported.

America has always been the land of freedom and opportunity, to those who yearn to be free.
Lady Liberty holds a book with those very words in it.
I suspect when those words were written, illegal immigration into the country was never thought of.

In our effort to welcome new arrivals, we should, with open arms, but be ever mindful that entry must be done legally only, and we as a nation should hold our leaders accountable for upholding our immigration laws.


That is not happening, and we only have ourselves to blame for allowing the government to dictate to us.
Somewhere along the way, government has forgotten it works for the people, not the other way around.
It is up to us to set things straight, and the only way to accomplish that is in the voting booth.
Think strongly about that the next time you are choosing a candidate for office, be it a city council person, or a president.
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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It is time to get real about this DACA program.
These people(regardless of age, or responsibility) entered this country illegally.
The power of reason enters our lives at an early age, so the argument that these children were unaware , is a weak one.

There are numerous ways one enters the country illegally, from climbing over, or going under a barrier.
One could arrive by small boat, or walk through a tunnel.
All of these things had to have had some meaning to these young children.
Did they think they were going for a long walk through the desert, just for kicks?
Did they think that hoping on a boat was just for a joy ride?
Taking a long ride in the back of a box truck was just a daily outing?
I just can't believer many of these young children, at the time, didn't question their parents as to where they were going, and why.

Now they are here, many settled into life in this country, so how would it be proper to send them back to the country they were born in?
Well, first off, the countries do not want them back.

My solution would be to first, punish the parents for bringing them here, perhaps with a mandatory fine, then deport them.
Second, for the 600,000 or so who have applied to the DACA program, let them stay.
From this day forward, no more applications should be taken, and processed, and DHS should work to getting the remaining ones deported.

America has always been the land of freedom and opportunity, to those who yearn to be free.
Lady Liberty holds a book with those very words in it.
I suspect when those words were written, illegal immigration into the country was never thought of.

In our effort to welcome new arrivals, we should, with open arms, but be ever mindful that entry must be done legally only, and we as a nation should hold our leaders accountable for upholding our immigration laws.


That is not happening, and we only have ourselves to blame for allowing the government to dictate to us.
Somewhere along the way, government has forgotten it works for the people, not the other way around.
It is up to us to set things straight, and the only way to accomplish that is in the voting booth.
Think strongly about that the next time you are choosing a candidate for office, be it a city council person, or a president.
I disagree with your solution. Why would these DACAs want to be separated from their parents by them remaining here and their parents deported? No, deport the whole family as every single one of them is here illegally regardless of how they got here and there would be no separation of families then.
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Old 07-19-2021, 08:52 PM
 
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It is time to get real about this DACA program.
These people(regardless of age, or responsibility) entered this country illegally.
The power of reason enters our lives at an early age, so the argument that these children were unaware , is a weak one.

There are numerous ways one enters the country illegally, from climbing over, or going under a barrier.
One could arrive by small boat, or walk through a tunnel.
All of these things had to have had some meaning to these young children.
Did they think they were going for a long walk through the desert, just for kicks?
Did they think that hoping on a boat was just for a joy ride?
Taking a long ride in the back of a box truck was just a daily outing?
I just can't believer many of these young children, at the time, didn't question their parents as to where they were going, and why.

Now they are here, many settled into life in this country, so how would it be proper to send them back to the country they were born in?
Well, first off, the countries do not want them back.

My solution would be to first, punish the parents for bringing them here, perhaps with a mandatory fine, then deport them.
Second, for the 600,000 or so who have applied to the DACA program, let them stay.
From this day forward, no more applications should be taken, and processed, and DHS should work to getting the remaining ones deported.

America has always been the land of freedom and opportunity, to those who yearn to be free.
Lady Liberty holds a book with those very words in it.

I suspect when those words were written, illegal immigration into the country was never thought of.

In our effort to welcome new arrivals, we should, with open arms, but be ever mindful that entry must be done legally only, and we as a nation should hold our leaders accountable for upholding our immigration laws.


That is not happening, and we only have ourselves to blame for allowing the government to dictate to us.
Somewhere along the way, government has forgotten it works for the people, not the other way around.
It is up to us to set things straight, and the only way to accomplish that is in the voting booth.
Think strongly about that the next time you are choosing a candidate for office, be it a city council person, or a president.


This is not Law nor Official policy, just prose.
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Old 07-19-2021, 11:29 PM
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Location: North Pacific
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America has always been the land of freedom and opportunity, to those who yearn to be free.
Lady Liberty holds a book with those very words in it.
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This is not Law nor Official policy, just prose.
Most unfortunate though that it has been brainwashed into Americans since birth. That and ... "Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." President Lincoln November 19, 1863

100 years later this country woke up to the realization, that wasn't true and that they had been lied to, in that what this country stood for and what the government says this country stands for are two separate things. Riots, protests, and marches spread all across this country. 10 years later, some stayed woke, others went back to sleep forever keeping themselves hypnotized into the American Dream. The dream it seems is greater than the reality, thus the reason, some people have a tough time with understanding the truth.
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Old 07-20-2021, 05:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by CALGUY View Post
It is time to get real about this DACA program.
These people(regardless of age, or responsibility) entered this country illegally.
The power of reason enters our lives at an early age, so the argument that these children were unaware , is a weak one.

There are numerous ways one enters the country illegally, from climbing over, or going under a barrier.
One could arrive by small boat, or walk through a tunnel.
All of these things had to have had some meaning to these young children.
Did they think they were going for a long walk through the desert, just for kicks?
Did they think that hoping on a boat was just for a joy ride?
Taking a long ride in the back of a box truck was just a daily outing?
I just can't believer many of these young children, at the time, didn't question their parents as to where they were going, and why.

Now they are here, many settled into life in this country, so how would it be proper to send them back to the country they were born in?
Well, first off, the countries do not want them back.

My solution would be to first, punish the parents for bringing them here, perhaps with a mandatory fine, then deport them.
Second, for the 600,000 or so who have applied to the DACA program, let them stay.
From this day forward, no more applications should be taken, and processed, and DHS should work to getting the remaining ones deported.

America has always been the land of freedom and opportunity, to those who yearn to be free.
Lady Liberty holds a book with those very words in it.
I suspect when those words were written, illegal immigration into the country was never thought of.

In our effort to welcome new arrivals, we should, with open arms, but be ever mindful that entry must be done legally only, and we as a nation should hold our leaders accountable for upholding our immigration laws.


That is not happening, and we only have ourselves to blame for allowing the government to dictate to us.
Somewhere along the way, government has forgotten it works for the people, not the other way around.
It is up to us to set things straight, and the only way to accomplish that is in the voting booth.
Think strongly about that the next time you are choosing a candidate for office, be it a city council person, or a president.
"Well, first off, the countries do not want them back."

NOT OUR PROBLEM! How many have YOU taken into YOUR home?

"America has always been the land of freedom and opportunity, to those who yearn to be free." IF YOU OBEY THE LAWS!

"Lady Liberty holds a book with those very words in it." We did NOT make nor carve the writings on it, FRANCE DID!

"Somewhere along the way, government has forgotten it works for the people"

The AMERICAN people, NOT foreigners who came her ILLEGALLY and continue to break OUR laws!

"My solution would be to first, punish the parents for bringing them here, perhaps with a mandatory fine, then deport them.
Second, for the 600,000 or so who have applied to the DACA program, let them stay."

We heard a LOT from the left during the Trump admin about the "rule of law" and "no one is ABOVE they law and "EQUAL justice under the law".

So, with that in mind, when a drug dealer is caught, ALL the money he has and ALL the houses, cars, jewelry,etc. he owns which was bought with the drug money is CONFISCATED.

Which means the wife and kid have to MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE and GIVE BACK all the goodies daddy bought them with the drug money.

Or should we change our laws and think about "those poor children who through no fault of their own have to give up the big bedroom and the Porsche or pony daddy bought them, the swimming pool, etc., etc., etc.

The SAME should apply to kids from ILLEGAL parents.

They should NOT benefit form the parents engaging in ILLEGAL activities. PERIOD!!!!!!!

Either we have "EQUAL" justice and "all are treated the same under the law", or we don't.

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Old 07-20-2021, 05:55 AM
 
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Stop with the "Democrat voters" line. The only way the immigrants get to vote is if they get citizenship, a green card doesn't do it.
Eventually they do vote. Nowhere did I say after they get their green card. Getting the green card is a step in the process. Why the hell do you think Joey is letting them all in? Where ya been?

Post 89 that I wrote (that you seemed to have missed):
Under the new plan, those living in the United States as of Jan. 1 could apply for temporary protected status immediately followed by a green card after five years if they meet certain requirements such as paying taxes and passing a background check. They would be allowed to apply for citizenship three years later.

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Old 07-20-2021, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Cali
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Now they are here, many settled into life in this country, so how would it be proper to send them back to the country they were born in?
Well, first off, the countries do not want them back.

.
I'm pretty sure you are speaking out of your ass on this one.

The only country that would not take back their OWN citizens from the United States is the country that has no diplomacy ties with the US. The citizens from that same country also do not get issued US travel visa (tourism, exchange student, business, etc.) from US Consulate either.
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