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Apartheid ended in 1994 and began it's transition on the way out going back to the 80's. That doesn't minimize it's impact nor say that the current dichotomy within the country still has a impact for that system.
However it's been almost 20 years since the leadership winds have changed and the country's population has increased 3X primarily due to immigration during that time thus 2/3 of the population never even lived in a country under the prior regime.
At a certain point you have to end the "racism" narrative and look at the current dynamics within a country and hold the current and prior leadership responsible. The government there chose to exert mass military force during the covid outbreak yet during this nationwide uprising a violence nary a presence of military to uphold rule of law and protect property rights. That right there says all you need to know about the government's priorities and it sends a clear message.
You cannot blame racist government of 25 years ago for the actions or lack of action today. One doesn't even have "care" about south africa to note what is happening there and how these events directly translate to what happened last summer in Blue cities all across the US. Mass government influence to enforce covid restrictions but 0 police presence in many cities to stop rioting and looting.
Same Liberation Theology at its base. In this form it’s called “anti-colonialism” but it’s essentially Marxism repackaged. Oppressor versus the oppressed.
Yeah this is true. I learned this in high school in English class as well as in college about liberation theology. It's pretty much catholic version of Marxism.
Some countries do best if under strong rule. I suspect they very much miss minority rule as it was certainly better than the mess they are in now.
It is a shame, because it looks like it could be a very nice and wonderful place, but it will continually get worse. Some place just need stronger leadership. I think South Africa is one of the worst places for carjacking, but crime is going crazy there just like cities in the US.
Maybe he's referring to Winnie Mandela? Apparently she was no Nelson Mandela.
Nelson divorced Winnie after quite some time. Interestingly, Winnie Mandela was the last person I was thinking about. I wasn't even thinking about her.
The thing of it is South Africa is more violent on a civil/non-wartime level than most other African nations by a sizable margin. Ghana was the first to gain independence and is a lot of more peaceful, though still on the poorer side. Same with Rwanda, which was on ethnic cleansing mode during the mid-90s. When you look at South Africa, it's actually what's called a middle-income country, specifically the upper-middle end of the spectrum. It's the only African nation that is a member of the G20( consisting of mostly 1st world/developed countries, including the USA, UK, Canada, and Japan)
South Africa has long been a nation of high murder rates. It was like this under Apartheid and it continues to be this way now. South Africa's murder rate increased from the 20s per 100,000 in the mid 1950s to the 30s per 100,000 in the 1960s. Between 1978 and 1993, the murder rapidly increased, peaking around 78 per 100,000 in 1993. South Africa has had a really bad murder problem that had been around since the 1960s and 70s. Before Apartheid, no one really cared because it was in the townships, where the Black people lived.
Ghana is a poor country relative to South Africa. It's murder rate is around 2 per 100,000, even lower than the USA. Theft and scamming are rampant in Ghana. However, Ghana has far less issues with murder than South Africa.
South Africa might be the richest of the Sub-Saharan African countries, but that wealth has not always benefited everyone. For a long time, only White people truly benefited from it. Black people in South Africa mostly remained poorer than everyone else, and lived in worse conditions than everyone else. The violence and high crime rates were concentrated in the townships. South Africa's White population indeed had a standard of living on par with the UK, Canada, and the USA. For Blacks, that standard of living was far lower, far worse. And the consider this. During the Apartheid era, Blacks were literally forced into areas called Bantustans. Alot of people got their land taken away.
South Africa has had a basket case of problems for a VERY LONG TIME.
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