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Old 07-22-2021, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Freedom of speech is not, and never has been, absolute. The classic example is that one cannot falsely yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater. There is such a thing as community standards of decency. The "F-bomb" signs should come down. The "Biden Sucks" signs, while in poor taste, are probably acceptable. The "Don't Blame Me" sign is absolutely protected speech.
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:14 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It’s a municipal judge. They are hired by the town to uphold speeding tickets. He’s wrong and she will win on appeal.
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Funny that I never, in 4 years of Trump anyone demanding people take down their anti Trump flags and banners.
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:28 AM
 
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It’s a municipal judge. They are hired by the town to uphold speeding tickets. He’s wrong and she will win on appeal.

No, his ruling is correct. At his low level he must apply the law as it stands. The borough has an anti-public profanity law. He had no choice but to rule against her. Now if Ms. Dick is challenging the constitutionality of that law, she has to appeal to a higher level. Don't know if she will succeed, the Supreme Court has never ruled that obscenity is protected under the 1st amendment.
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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Freedom of speech is not, and never has been, absolute. The classic example is that one cannot falsely yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater. There is such a thing as community standards of decency. The "F-bomb" signs should come down. The "Biden Sucks" signs, while in poor taste, are probably acceptable. The "Don't Blame Me" sign is absolutely protected speech.
But you can flip the bird at a cop. It's a free speech right.



Court: Flipping the bird to cop is free speech

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...439_story.html
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Freedom of speech is not, and never has been, absolute. The classic example is that one cannot falsely yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater. There is such a thing as community standards of decency. The "F-bomb" signs should come down. The "Biden Sucks" signs, while in poor taste, are probably acceptable. The "Don't Blame Me" sign is absolutely protected speech.
Yes you CAN yell "Fire" in a crowded theater if it is in the script. Also, that anecdote has nothing to do with free speech. It has to do with commerce, not speech. In the old days competing theaters would send people into a rivals establishment to disrupt the performance and cause financial harm. The theaters at the time had non-existent fire suppression and were prone to fires. Cities passed local ordinances to stop the practice of sabotaging the performance.
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:32 AM
 
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Well if people can flip off the President and get away with it...
Unless their employer thinks otherwise.

Find out where she works and get after it.

Anyway, I live among people who behave in a more proper manner. Not crass and tasteless like this example.
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:37 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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But you can flip the bird at a cop. It's a free speech right.



Court: Flipping the bird to cop is free speech

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...439_story.html
Yup. I don’t know where everyone is getting the idea that something someone finds offensive is not free speech.
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Old 07-22-2021, 09:42 AM
 
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No, his ruling is correct. At his low level he must apply the law as it stands. The borough has an anti-public profanity law. He had no choice but to rule against her. Now if Ms. Dick is challenging the constitutionality of that law, she has to appeal to a higher level. Don't know if she will succeed, the Supreme Court has never ruled that obscenity is protected under the 1st amendment.
You're wrong on so many levels. If this municipal judge doesn't reverse his own ruling, it will be throw out on the first appeal.

See the Supreme Court's 1971 ruling in Cohen V. California
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Old 07-22-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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You're wrong on so many levels. If this municipal judge doesn't reverse his own ruling, it will be throw out on the first appeal.

See the Supreme Court's 1971 ruling in Cohen V. California
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Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court holding that the First Amendment prevented the conviction of Paul Robert Cohen for the crime of disturbing the peace by wearing a jacket displaying "F--- the Draft" in the public corridors of a California courthouse.
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