Europe flooding and western North America is burning (solutions, military, dollars)
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How would that help? I'm just wondering what it will take for the anti-science people to accept that the climate is changing all over the planet....I do not like all this heat.
Dude, your conclusion may be correct but your pointing to anecdotal evidence based upon outliers making up a fraction of the earths surface is garbage science.
The US alone has dozens of different climate zones, there can be flooding, drought, low snow, high snow, cold winter, warm summer, tornado, hail, hurricane, winds, cloudiness, lack of cloudiness such that one could anecdotally point to some region of the earth having some abnormal event every year FOREVER even if there wasn't ongoing climate change.
The biggest concern with the changing climate, besides coastal flooding and increasingly erratic weather, may be the impact on agriculture. The megadrought in the west is on the bring of wiping out entire crops. That's going to impact everybody's pocketbook.
"Climate change" has become the global whipping boy for bad forest and water management....
Spot on. Reservoirs have turned into "recreational lakes" with expensive homes built around them.
Come some heavy rains and that water is supposed to be drained ahead of time. But it's not because those wealthy home owners don't want the water levels to go down...their boats, their docks, their "waterfront" homes. And then the flooding happens with homes destroyed and lives lost.
The biggest concern with the changing climate, besides coastal flooding and increasingly erratic weather, may be the impact on agriculture. The megadrought in the west is on the bring of wiping out entire crops. That's going to impact everybody's pocketbook.
Coastal flooding is due to natural erosion of the beach sand. They try to stop it by trucking/pumping in sand to "replenish the beaches" but Mother Nature always comes back to steady the course.
Homes should have never been built "beachfront" because the beach MOVES over time due to natural forces of nature.
You had a multi year drought in Texas and the nation survived. I lived there during that time. You had the dust bowl and the nation survived. We'll survive this as well.
The USA decreased it's carbon footprint by 2.01% the last year while Canada only decreased by 1.0% and India increased by 4.71% and the world's top polluter, China, only decreased by 0.28%...so it's erroneous to suggest that the USA has not already taken steps to reduce its carbon emissions.
You still haven't said how you're going to change the climate....I'd like about 15F cooler this afternoon in Phoenix if you don't mind.
The US has taken steps to reduce consumption but is still one of the largest generators of green house gases along with Canada and was the number one for decades. Our per capita consumption is twice that of China, they are number one in absolute terms because their population is 5 times the size of ours but each citizen uses far less than us.
Climate doesn't change rapidly but to correct the problem we need to reduce consumption world wide. CO2 exists in the atmosphere for decades so it's a difficult battle. It doesn't help when politicians claim we don't even have a problem and roll back even minor attempts aimed at a solution.
It does not take a rocket scientist to understand why there are forest fires in the west- poor management.
If you hike around the Sierras and Rockies, you will note that there are MOUNDS OF DEAD WOOD on the forest floor which have accumulated due to prevention of forest fires. So when the fires finally start, they are HUGE and cannot be contained.
The Appalachians have more water and fires are allowed to burn, thus there is not the massive accumulation of fuel, as seen in the west, and thus not such widespread devastating fires.
Why doesn't it rot there like other deadwood and get broken down into soil by fungi and insects? Is it because it's too dry in the Sierras and Rockies and there are no fungi and insects that the dry climate will support there? Or is there another reason for it not rotting, like maybe because of different types of rot-retardant vegetation that grows there?
The excessive heat and drought has also claimed agriculture and livestock in the western half (so far) of Canada this year. If the heat dome continues expanding bigger and heading east the way it's been doing it will impact the eastern half of Canada soon too. I'm guessing USA and a lot of other countries will have to say bye bye to a lot of Canadian agricultural and livestock farm products that they've come to depend on so much in trade.
The same thing will eventually happen with all the mass produced agricultural/livestock products in USA too because USA is at a much greater risk of the kind of drought that Canada is presently experiencing.
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The outlook for livestock and agricultural production is grim everywhere you look. Perhaps some crop production can be shifted further north in Canada, but then you run into the problem of poor soils that were just recently covered by permafrost and still not good for most crops. The Western US is going to have to shift its agricultural production to other areas of the country which are more amenable for growing most food crops despite the warming. It's going to be difficult for people all over the globe - not just N. America.
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Originally Posted by Zoisite
Science deniers always die a lot sooner and usually much more horribly and painfully than people who don't deny science.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zoisite again.
LOL! I can't help but think that you are right. Deniers will do nothing to prepare for a vastly different future than what we have now. They'll stubbornly remain in their ocean front properties until their homes collapse under the rising tides and they are carried out to sea. They will continue to build their homes in the wildland/urban interface and wake up one morning to discover that they have become crispy critters. As the warming climate encourages more disease carrying insects further north, deniers will refuse any vaccines just like they have refused the Covid vaccine. Thus, the deniers will die in disproportionate numbers.
Belief in global warming is optional, but participation is mandatory.
The biggest concern with the changing climate, besides coastal flooding and increasingly erratic weather, may be the impact on agriculture. The megadrought in the west is on the bring of wiping out entire crops. That's going to impact everybody's pocketbook.
You don't care about anyones pocketbook except your own.
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