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Old 07-21-2021, 07:32 AM
 
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Nearly all of the vaccine patents that make up Moderna's mRNA covid-19 vaccine were filed before December 2019.

How is this possible?
How did Moderna know there would be a coronavirus outbreak?
Why were they already working on a vaccine for Covid-19 before Covid-19 officially existed?

This is from Moderna's official website regarding the 7 patents that make up their mRNA Covid-19 vaccine:
https://www.modernatx.com/patents

Click on all 7 patents and look at the filing date for each patent (on the left side). Ignore the date of when the patent was awarded (top right), what's important is the date when the patent was filed. In 6 of the patents, the filing dates were long before December 2019, which is when the new Covid-19 virus suddenly emerged (or so we're told).

Only one of the patents (the second on the list) shows a filing date after Dec. 2019, showing of Feb 28, 2020.

Anyone care to explain what is going on?
You DO understand that a big part of the reason the vaccines got done so quickly was not solely due to operation warp speed but because they were already working on vaccines for novel coronaviruses and were able to tailor what they were already working on and complete the vaccine so quickly because they were already working on the base design for quite some time, right? I mean, seriously. Whether or not the lab in Wuhan deployed the virus or there was an accident at the lab or what have you.....why do you think there WAS a coronavirus lab in the first place? Not to weaponize it but to study it and develop vaccines.

By your thinking, the very existence of a lab studying coronavirus means it was intentionally designed.
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Essentially the companies have been working on these new generation of vaccines for years by patenting different things. Covid-19 was just the first opportunity to use them. Not as 'experimental' after all.
And honestly, we have no way of knowing if the Covid-19 vaccines were the first time these patents were used, do we?

Swagger used a great analogy. These are parts used in all cars and not specific to the latest car.
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:32 AM
 
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What if there was inside knowledge that something cataclysmic is going to happen to our planet within 10 years? Certainly those 10 years would be total chaos and anarchy. There would be mass hysteria as people would certainly lose their minds. Currency would no longer mean anything and life would be an absolute free for all with mass suicides and murders happening daily.

Or we could all peacefully just go away, under the premise that we're actually saving ourselves from getting sick.

The way our government is spending money and other governments are acting like they have nothing to lose it's almost like it doesn't really matter.

I'm not saying that what I'm posting here is true, but with people aggressively seeking to get into space on their own dime also adds to the question of is there something going on that the general public has no idea about?
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:32 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It's just coincidence folks. Lucky for us they figured it out in 2018 so they can use it in 2021.
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:33 AM
 
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Moderna had a $25 million dollar contract with DARPA in 2013. Of course, any of that work was "secret". Who knows what bioweapons they could have been working on.

DARPA Awards Moderna Therapeutics a Grant for up to $25 Million to Develop Messenger RNA Therapeuticsâ„¢
October 2, 2013 at 9:00 AM EDT


https://investors.modernatx.com/news...illion-develop

There is this more recently too...

An advocacy group has asked the Department of Defense to investigate what it called “an apparent failure†by Moderna (MRNA) to disclose millions of dollars in awards received from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in patent applications the company filed for vaccines.

https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2...patents-darpa/
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:33 AM
 
Location: South Florida
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Please read this from the CDC:

mRNA Vaccines Are New, But Not Unknown
Researchers have been studying and working with mRNA vaccines for decades. Interest has grown in these vaccines because they can be developed in a laboratory using readily available materials. This means the process can be standardized and scaled up, making vaccine development faster than traditional methods of making vaccines.

mRNA vaccines have been studied before for flu, Zika, rabies, and cytomegalovirus (CMV). As soon as the necessary information about the virus that causes COVID-19 was available, scientists began designing the mRNA instructions for cells to build the unique spike protein into an mRNA vaccine.

Future mRNA vaccine technology may allow for one vaccine to provide protection for multiple diseases, thus decreasing the number of shots needed for protection against common vaccine-preventable diseases.

Beyond vaccines, cancer research has used mRNA to trigger the immune system to target specific cancer cells.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ines/mrna.html


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And again, in....hold...slowly out...
repeat as needed

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Old 07-21-2021, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Well it sounds like they knew that virus's were being developed and it was only a matter of time before one got out so they created something to combat them.



Does anyone know how much a vaccine shot cost? Who is paying for the Billions of doses? The drug companies certainly are not doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.



I wonder if the people that get the vaccine this year will be faced with a necessary booster shot that will cost $500 next year. Perhaps 5-10 years from now everyone that received a vaccine will be required to go onto other expensive drugs to avoid a terrible side effect "that no one considered..."



The drug makers are already like pushers on the street. They gave us the first hit for free and now they have us hooked.
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:35 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Well maybe the vaccines and their patents are all part of the "gain of function" research they do...create a new virus and then create a vaccine for it.
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:36 AM
 
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They were probably patents for processes and methods behind creating mRNA vaccines in general. The methods would be the same no matter which virus they were trying to make a vaccine for.
That is what I read. They have been working on vaccines for coronaviruses almost a couple decades. When covid-19 hit they used already patented processes to tackle it. Seems pretty obvious if there was some sinister plot behind all of it the "smoking gun" would not be linked right on their website. . Seriously? It would be like going on the Dominion website and finding instructions on to use their voting machines to flip votes.

So easy to mislead the conspiracy folks on here.
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:38 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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That is what I read. They have been working on vaccines for coronaviruses almost a couple decades. When covid-19 hit they used already patented processes to tackle it. Seems pretty obvious if there was some sinister plot behind all of it the "smoking gun" would not be linked right on their website.

So easy to mislead up the conspiracy folks on here.
Not really. Sure they were working on this for decades but the patents are all recent.
Remember...you won't get your ownership/money if the patent isn't filed.
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