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Old 07-25-2021, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Throughout history a female was considered “ready” at the onset of puberty. There is no question we are all decedents of what now is considered a child.

The concept of childhood is a relatively new construct and not universal.

Delaware back when, determined the age of consent for a female to be age 7. Would have been interesting to have been the fly on the wall listening to men debate this one.

Ben Carson’s mother with a third grade education was married at age 13. This was 69 years ago.

Based on their Facebook posts, neither made a secret of their relationship and posted pictures of their baby shower. Obviously their friends/ families were happy for them. Obviously, these two intended to raise their child in a two- parent home.


We know nothing factual about the citizenship of either the mother or the father. Why speculate?

Ignorance of law is no excuse.
Oh, come on! They didn't even have FB then.

(I'm sorry y'all. This is a serious subject, but the way Mom wrote that struck me as funny.)

 
Old 07-25-2021, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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24 and 12 should be ok with Christians. I mean Mary was supposed to be 12 and Joseph 40 in the Bible. Mohamed was 40 and his wife was 9, for Muslims.
You almost nailed it "Quran 33:6.Muhammad was married at the age of 25 to his first wife, Khadija bint Khuwaylid, who was a 40 year old widow."
 
Old 07-25-2021, 07:34 PM
 
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It's disgusting that a social worker is on here making excuses for a 24 year old MAN impregnating an 11/12 year old girl.
It's typical. Social workers often ignore stuff like that.
 
Old 07-25-2021, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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24 and 12 should be ok with Christians. I mean Mary was supposed to be 12 and Joseph 40 in the Bible. Mohamed was 40 and his wife was 9, for Muslims.
Lol, nothing in the Bible gives the ages of Mary or Joseph.
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Old 07-26-2021, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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FFS Clara the man is 24 and he impregnated a 12 year old (likely 11 at the time). Why are you bending over backward to excuse this? Your career has been shaping young minds and protecting them yet you are trying to excuse statutory rape.
People please - there is no such thing as 'statutory rape'! Rape is defined as forced sex. Period. Underage sex is not rape although it may be illegal and that is all it is - illegal.

This young man and his partner are, well, partners. It's not a case of excusing anything, it's a case of the facts. The young man impregnated a very young girl and as odd as it may seem to you and I, it is not odd for these people. (Actually, it's very odd!)

But please let's not start bringing in 'statutory rape'. What kind of a law is that anyway! It's underage sex under law but it was consensual. It would be immoral (and cruel) to prosecute them. I just hope they don't get prosecuted.
 
Old 07-26-2021, 02:45 AM
 
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That does not look like an Oklahoma man. It looks like a border jumper.
He looks EXACTLY like an Oklahoma man.

What are you saying that Oklahoma men look like?
 
Old 07-26-2021, 02:47 AM
 
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We have little information about the man at this time. However, let’s not act as though there aren’t American-born Hispanics that live in Oklahoma or as though Americans of all backgrounds don’t commit these types of crimes. My heart goes out to the little girl and the baby. Terrible.
Exactly.

After all, I doubt many folks around here wanna discuss the “To Catch A Predator” series in ethnic terms.
 
Old 07-26-2021, 02:51 AM
 
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That guy does not look like he is from Oklahoma.
What do people from Oklahoma look like?
 
Old 07-26-2021, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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What do people from Oklahoma look like?
They look distinctly American ... which means they could look like absolutely anyone on the planet.

I lived in OKC area for two years. You have a broad mix of everything. Hispanic, black, white, an unusually large amount of Native American, Asians, Pacific islanders, etc. The only sorts I didn't run into much were Jews, people from India and Catholics.

I guess that settles it. This guy looks like a space alien from outer space.
 
Old 07-26-2021, 01:18 PM
 
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no one said it never happened in the us. And just because this does happen everywhere does not make it ok here in the US now. Many countries recognize these minor/ adult relationships as being wrong especially when there is a big age gap. Many states in Mexico do not, it is more of a cultural norm. One that is still followed by some here in the US.
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