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Old 07-23-2021, 04:48 PM
 
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I keep hearing about alt right and white supremacists. Who are these people and where are they? I don't see much of them anywhere. But I sure HEAR about them a lot. I would argue that very few of them even exist....if they do, it's in MUCH smaller numbers than the radical, Marxist left movement, which we see daily rioting, protesting, looting all over the major American cities. So what's with all the talk about alt right and who exactly are they?
Seriously? This forum is packed with alt right types. Most are not white supremacists, although there are a few.
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Old 07-23-2021, 04:50 PM
 
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Here's the correct answer.

The Alt Right does exist. We have evidence that they exist. And we have some major people that self identify with the movement like Milo Yiannopoulos, Richard Spencer, Nick Fuentes, and Andrew Anglin.

But their numbers are very low to the point of being completely insignificant. Most Republicans don't even know what the Alt-Right is despite the Alt Right constantly being tied to them and Trump.

Most Alt-Righters are anti-Semitic, pro-government(as long as White nationalism is promoted), and support Identity politics to the fullest which goes against the grain of most Republicans/Conservatives. However, they're also very anti-Liberal and anti-Democrat which puts them in a peculiar position where the Left will lump them in with Conservatives just off of their differences. Ironically, Richard Spencer endorsed Biden in the 2020 election though.

All and all, they're still a very fringe group that's mainly based online. Yeah...I know about the Charlotesville riot and the Pepe The Frog memes but, realistically, most people didn't even know their existence until MSN started talking about them a lot in 2016.

Funnily enough, MSN was also talking about "clown sightings" across the nation in 2016 based entirely on hearsay. Then, out of nowhere, you started seeing (many of them staged) videos of clown sightings out of nowhere right after the news started to spread in the media.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/...c-hoax-history

The Alt-right blew up in a similar fashion where the media talked about them nonstop and kept tying them to Trump and it grew online just off of the media bringing them so much free promotion and attention. But it died down once Trump got elected ironically. DailyStormer has ceased to exist as a website and you dont' hear about their offline presence that much anymore.

But the media will smear anybody(not even just Conservatives) who they fear with that label if they don't toe the line.
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Old 07-23-2021, 05:13 PM
 
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No, it does not.

I challenge you to find any notable group of people or institution that identifies themselves as "alt-right". This is a deceitful Democrat left smear campaign that came into vogue around the time of the confrontation in Charlottesville between some kkk people and some Antifa folks. It was intended to try to conflate and smear everyone on the right and certainly everyone who in any way supported Donald Trump as a racist and as a "white supremacists".

It would be very hard to overstate what a bunch of relentless, aggressive, unconscionable liars that Democrat leftists are, especially any of them who have continued to perpetuate this flat out lie.

It should be noted that the kkk racist types are not ideological conservatives. They were Democrats for over a hundred years, and still would be, if the Democrat party had not switched it's racist loyalties from being pro-white/anti-black racists to their current profile of being anti-white/pro-black racists. The kkk types have no loyalty to "the right," only to their racist world view.

There is no such thing as alt-right, except in the lying minds of the Democrat leftists who have and continue to deceitfully perpetuate the term.
Look up the National Policy Institute

https://naleo.org/institute/2015-sanantonio/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...ncer&FORM=VDRE

Richard Spencer

The Southern Poverty Law Center describes Spencer as "a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old."

Credited with creating the term "alt-right," Spencer was also one of the main organizers of the neo-Nazi "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017 at which counter-protester Heather Heyer died after being struck by a car driven by white supremacist James Alex Fields Jr.


https://youtu.be/puJ-arJgkZU
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Old 07-23-2021, 05:36 PM
 
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Yes. You see them loudly online, and in certain circles you see them in real life.

That's the problem with social media. One tweet from some loner sitting in his mother's basement somewhere or a Chinese bot spreading disinformation and people think there are thousands of them out there. I trust what I see on the street and I haven't met any of them yet.
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Old 07-23-2021, 06:19 PM
 
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Look up the National Policy Institute

https://naleo.org/institute/2015-sanantonio/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...ncer&FORM=VDRE

Richard Spencer

The Southern Poverty Law Center describes Spencer as "a suit-and-tie version of the white supremacists of old."

Credited with creating the term "alt-right," Spencer was also one of the main organizers of the neo-Nazi "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017 at which counter-protester Heather Heyer died after being struck by a car driven by white supremacist James Alex Fields Jr.


https://youtu.be/puJ-arJgkZU
First, the Southern Poverty Law Center is a Democrat left racist hate organization. Anything presented by them needs to be evaluated through that lens.

Second, Richard Spencer certainly exists, and he is a notorious racist/white supremacist, and is not shy about letting people know it. He may have initially come up with the term "alt-right," but it was not for the purpose of identifying himself with the Republican right, but rather to differentiate himself from the Republican right. Spencer is obsessed with his racist world views, very much like the current icon of Democrat left "Woke," pro-black racism, Ibram X. Kendi. These two are Birds of a feather.

Third, the Republican right does not now not has it ever supported Richard Spencer, the KKK, white supremacy or racism. Anyone who says otherwise is a lying liar. Suffice it to say, there are an enormous number of lying liars among the Democrat left in this country.

Fourth, the only reason why anyone thinks there might be some sort of connection between Richard Spencer or his "Alt-right" movement, and the Republican right is the "Fake News" Democrat left liars in the corporate media decided to try to smear Donald Trump and ALL of his supporters as being connected and supportive of this vile agenda. It was a heanous, unconscionable lie then and it still is today. They completely made it up.

Fifth, whatever support Richard Spenser has among other white racists/white supremacist types, it is a very small group of people. Again, these people are not conservatives ideologically, they are rabid racists ideologically. The Republican party does not support them, like them, or recognize them as Republicans, and in fact the Republicans and the right rejects these people as repugnant and odious.

There is no meaningful "alt-right" movement that is in any way connected with either Donald Trump, the Republican party or the conservative movement. The Democrat left corporate media presentation of the "alt-right" as a large, substantial conservative-oriented and related movement is something that does not actually exist in anything even close to the form, function or scale that those lying liars have routinely suggested that it does. That is just more "Fake news" from these people.
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Old 07-23-2021, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Here's the correct answer.

The Alt Right does exist. We have evidence that they exist. And we have some major people that self identify with the movement like Milo Yiannopoulos, Richard Spencer, Nick Fuentes, and Andrew Anglin.

But their numbers are very low to the point of being completely insignificant. Most Republicans don't even know what the Alt-Right is despite the Alt Right constantly being tied to them and Trump.

Most Alt-Righters are anti-Semitic, pro-government(as long as White nationalism is promoted), and support Identity politics to the fullest which goes against the grain of most Republicans/Conservatives. However, they're also very anti-Liberal and anti-Democrat which puts them in a peculiar position where the Left will lump them in with Conservatives just off of their differences. Ironically, Richard Spencer endorsed Biden in the 2020 election though.

All and all, they're still a very fringe group that's mainly based online. Yeah...I know about the Charlotesville riot and the Pepe The Frog memes but, realistically, most people didn't even know their existence until MSN started talking about them a lot in 2016.

Funnily enough, MSN was also talking about "clown sightings" across the nation in 2016 based entirely on hearsay. Then, out of nowhere, you started seeing (many of them staged) videos of clown sightings out of nowhere right after the news started to spread in the media.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/10/...c-hoax-history

The Alt-right blew up in a similar fashion where the media talked about them nonstop and kept tying them to Trump and it grew online just off of the media bringing them so much free promotion and attention. But it died down once Trump got elected ironically. DailyStormer has ceased to exist as a website and you dont' hear about their offline presence that much anymore.

But the media will smear anybody(not even just Conservatives) who they fear with that label if they don't toe the line.
It was largely relegated to the internet or Trump rallies pre Charlottesville. There was the issues of meme like the Mac Tonight inspired Moonman and Pepe the Frog, but it was not out in public.
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Old 07-23-2021, 07:09 PM
 
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It’s intentional.
They rely on plausible deniability. That’s the entire point of the name “alt-right”. It sounds less threatening than KKK, or neo-Nazis.

That’s why they rely on dogwhistles because they know if they let it slip, they’d scare people off. The alt-right got brave when Charlottesville happened. But after they got pushback and that girl was killed, they went back into hiding.

Now they gotta rebrand themselves again.

It’s actually pretty hilarious, if not pathetic.
I feel sad when I see people using the term 'dogwhistle'. It shows me you are just a sheep who buys into Democrat propaganda.
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Old 07-23-2021, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I feel sad when I see people using the term 'dogwhistle'. It shows me you are just a sheep who buys into Democrat propaganda.
So law and order doesn't apply to Trump and his rioters but does to BLM protests? That is the typical logic on the board. They whitewash Jan 6th and instead pivot to the riots related to George Floyd.
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Old 07-23-2021, 07:55 PM
 
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The bolded below describes at least 50% of the posts in this forum:

Hermansson et al defined the alt-right as "a far right, anti-globalist grouping" that operated "primarily online though with offline outlets." They noted that its "core belief is that 'white identity' is under attack from pro-multicultural and liberal elites and so called 'social justice warriors' (SJWs) who allegedly use 'political correctness' to undermine Western civilisation and the rights of white males." .............

Having analyzed alt-right posts online, the political scientists Joe Phillips and Joseph Yi noted that a pervasive underlying theme was the belief that white people were victims and that white Americans had been disadvantaged by government policies such as affirmative action for non-white groups, assistance to illegal immigrants, and the perceived denigration of "white history" like Christopher Columbus and the Confederate States of America.......Alt-rightists wish to see an end to measures they believe disadvantage white Americans, including affirmative action, toleration of illegal immigration, and the public removal of symbols of "white history", such as statues of Columbus.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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A lot of the orange man bad replies did. So did TDS. Are you ignorant or oblivious?
Oh cool a nonsensical post lacking substance
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