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As it should be. If the courts had stayed out of social issues, then the voters in the various states would have already worked things out long ago. But the courts took that away from the states, and we have not been able to engage in those discussions.
We have lost forty years of debate, trial and error, which would have gotten us to a place where the people and the states would have come to an agreement on abortion issues.
Long ago, it was up to the states. Some allowed abortion and others did not. The Roe v Wade decision made it legal in all states. Since then, abortion has become safer because it is now done by doctors in medical settings.
The GOP's endless battle to make it 1960 again, those were the good old days when abortions were banned.
Not true.
Abortions were legal in California and New York before Roe made them legal everywhere. Your state may have banned it, but it was not illegal by federal law.
Overturning Roe may have no effect in your state. For that matter, it won't change anything in Mississippi because all the abortion clinics have been closed except for one. It's legal, but nearly impossible.
Long ago, it was up to the states. Some allowed abortion and others did not. The Roe v Wade decision made it legal in all states. Since then, abortion has become safer because it is now done by doctors in medical settings.
Poor argument. If abortion was left up to the states, then abortion procedures would have improved regardless. BTW, abortion is resulting with the exact intentions of it's early proponents, the highest rate of abortions are being performed on black women.
The point here is to allow the states to decide when abortions are legal. If we were left alone to work this out, with all the new science over the decades, abortions of some sort would be allowed in every state, and they would have been just as safe as they are today.
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Poor argument. If abortion was left up to the states, then abortion procedures would have improved regardless. BTW, abortion is resulting with the exact intentions of it's early proponents, the highest rate of abortions are being performed on black women.
The point here is to allow the states to decide when abortions are legal. If we were left alone to work this out, with all the new science over the decades, abortions of some sort would be allowed in every state, and they would have been just as safe as they are today.
Poor argument left up to the states many would have continued making it illegal and probally others might have joined that list. Even today the tactics change year to year, "clinics are legal but a doctor performing the procedure is a crime","clinics must have the same facilities as a full service hospital" and now my favorite they are trying to pass in Tennessee that a rapist has parental rights to the child he impregnates in his victim, they would need his permission to terminate it.
Rather than stereotype a race of woman implying its behavior try saying that poor woman have the highest rates because they have the least options.
So lets leave the Federal Law in place because without it woman won't have any safe choice and the right to lifers have no concern about the child after their born.
Mississippi would do better if they were so concerned about improving the health care available to their citizens which borders on 3rd world in some places rather than trying to eliminate legal health care options that they have now....
What? You don't think having a bunch more kids being born out of wedlock will solve Mississippi's problems?
The Supreme Court isn't going to be swayed by a southern state. It will remain that females have choices in how to manage the decision to this medical procedure. .
Prior to Roe vs Wade, women had choices in how to "manage the decision". You do know where babies come from, right? Don't want a baby? Don't do that thing that results in pregnancy. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. Might have something to do with the fact that the concept of personal responsibility and accountability is a completely alien concept to some folks. Perform the action, accept the consequences. It's called being an adult.
For good reason. Hundreds of thousands of lives are being snuffed out yearly in the US simply for the convenience of some people who can't control themselves. The number of people killed via firearms pales in comparison.
The Supreme Court isn't going to be swayed by a southern state. It will remain that females have choices in how to manage the decision to this medical procedure.
I can't imagine the courts would intercede if a man said- I'd like a vascetomy and the courts said, too bad!
Both involve a decision held by the person to modify or deter .
Its MY Dream that the decision remains protected and upheld.
There is no legitimate comparison between a vasectomy and abortion.
An abortion kills a being living in its mother’s womb. A vasectomy prevents that from happening in the first place.
The proper comparison is tubal ligation and vasectomy.
Might have something to do with the fact that the concept of personal responsibility and accountability is a completely alien concept to some folks. Perform the action, accept the consequences. It's called being an adult.
Recognizing that you don't want to be pregnant and doing something about it is accepting personal responsibility. No doubt you'd prefer a young single woman bear the child and depend on government support?
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Abortion ends life. Simple as that.
That's your definition of life. Not everyone shares that definition. Hence, the term "pro-choice".
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