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Old 12-10-2021, 08:38 AM
 
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Nope. They're more worried about being able to afford rent, food, etc., in Biden's highly inflationary economy. That impacts EVERYONE, a much higher number/percentage than that of pregnant women. Niche issues will be eclipsed by issues that actually impact EVERYONE.
Laughable that you think the only people who care about abortion rights are pregnant women.

All women who are fertile think about the risk of pregnancy all the time. Lots of men think about it as well.

 
Old 12-10-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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Nope. The combination of a MUCH higher number of vaccinated Americans dying from COVID during the Biden Admin PLUS the extremely unpopular vaccine mandates will LOSE votes for Democrats.
It is interesting that a poster keeps claiming that millions of women are freaking out about this.

Yet is the ONLY poster posting in the thread.

Where are the millions of angry women, lol???
 
Old 12-10-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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So, not a total ban on abortion, just like state gun control laws aren't a total ban on guns. Same-Same.
Call it whatever you want. It will still be unacceptable to a majority of Americans.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 08:53 AM
 
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Nope. The combination of a MUCH higher number of vaccinated Americans dying from COVID during the Biden Admin PLUS the extremely unpopular vaccine mandates will LOSE votes for Democrats.
Anyone concerned about dying from covid is not going to be voting R. with the party's rabid base of covid whack a doos lol.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Nope. They're more worried about being able to afford rent, food, etc., in Biden's highly inflationary economy. That impacts EVERYONE, a much higher number/percentage than that of pregnant women. Niche issues will be eclipsed by issues that actually impact EVERYONE.
An extra kid certainly does affect the family budget, big time. Abortion is not and never has been a niche issue. About 25% of American women have had an abortion at least once in their lives, as has been stated in this thread many times.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 08:57 AM
 
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Nope. The combination of a MUCH higher number of vaccinated Americans dying from COVID during the Biden Admin PLUS the extremely unpopular vaccine mandates will LOSE votes for Democrats.
that might lose votes for dems as it should IMO, but the restrictions on abortion by the right will prompt many to vote D. What it really means is that again there will be no one to vote for. Only extremes in politics.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 09:06 AM
 
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that might lose votes for dems as it should IMO, but the restrictions on abortion by the right will prompt many to vote D. What it really means is that again there will be no one to vote for. Only extremes in politics.
Not necessarily.

For example.........Marco Rubio for US Senate in FL is anti-abortion.

The Dem most likely to run against him, Val Demings, is a former LEO so not soft on crime issues that most R would care about. Her husband is the Mayor of Orlando and has shown a great deal of common sense dealing with Covid issues unlike DeSantis posturing/grandstanding/do nothing/slow to do things approach that turns many mainstream R's off.

She's a reasonable choice for someone who wants a pro-abortion choice.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 09:14 AM
 
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An extra kid certainly does affect the family budget, big time. Abortion is not and never has been a niche issue. About 25% of American women have had an abortion at least once in their lives, as has been stated in this thread many times.
In a year, there are about 700,000 abortions.

In a year, there are 77,000,000 women of child-bearing age.

According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, approximately 45 percent of abortions are repeat abortions.

Please explain mathematically how you calculated that 25% of all women have had an abortion.


Hint
It's statistically impossible when 45% of abortions are second abortions.

And more abortions are third, fourth and fifth abortions. That 25% stat is not possible from a mathematical perspective.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 09:26 AM
 
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There are many state gun restriction laws that are stricter than federal law If those are allowed to stand, then state restrictions on abortion that are stricter than federal law can stand.
That is a poor comparison and if they believe the laws are too strict then they are free to challenge them in court. A fair comparison would be if a state banned all guns as they plan to do with abortions.
 
Old 12-10-2021, 09:29 AM
 
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That is a poor comparison and if they believe the laws are too strict then they are free to challenge them in court. A fair comparison would be if a state banned all guns as they plan to do with abortions.
Ban all abortions is conjecture. It is not happening.

Restricting providers is no different than limiting bar opening hours as occurs all over the nation, or having some gun laws.
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