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Old 12-13-2021, 07:37 AM
 
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Their landlord isn't a fetus.
Their landlord is a human life, just as a fetus has been classified as such by the legal precedent set by fetal homicide laws.

 
Old 12-13-2021, 07:39 AM
 
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So in your view, do I as a woman have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or not based on how the Constitution is written?
As it pertains to your own life, yes. When you try to impose your will on another human's life? No.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 07:51 AM
 
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In the same traditional way as I, which means we both have the right to live, we may choose our careers, where we live, who we marry, etc.

The Constitution did not cover abortion at all. That was not an accident. It did state all rights not granted the federal government belong at the local level.
Purely in regards to the US Constitution, that's correct. The 10th Amendment explicitly states that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution are reserved to the states. That's why different states have different laws restricting 2nd Amendment Rights. States can likewise have different laws restricting any perceived right to abortion.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 07:53 AM
 
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I agree with newtovenice's post. The one constant in these discussions coming from the pro-abortion contingent IS in fact that women are ill-informed, misinformed, ignorant, or just plain too stupid about getting/using birth control in spite of the availability of condoms and the OTC morning after pill in almost every store, and they are also somewhat confused as to how babies are made.

Absolutely, the assumption being made and the attitude expressed by the pro-abortion contingent in this thread is that women are colossally stupid.
This is my take on it. These women who don't take precautions against getting pregnant just enjoy spontaneous, wild abandoned sex and they just hope they won't get pregnant from it but in the backs of their minds they know they can get an abortion if it happens. Men are guilty of the same but they aren't the ones to get pregnant so less risk for them. They both just allow their sexual urges to over rule their thought processes.

If abortion weren't so readily available perhaps both the woman and the man would think twice about that type of sexual behavior.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 07:59 AM
 
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It IS killing. Homicide, to be more specific, the killing of one human by another.
No, it's not.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 08:02 AM
 
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I agree with newtovenice's post. The one constant in these discussions coming from the pro-abortion contingent IS in fact that women are ill-informed, misinformed, ignorant, or just plain too stupid about getting/using birth control in spite of the availability of condoms and the OTC morning after pill in almost every store, and they are also somewhat confused as to how babies are made.

Absolutely, the assumption being made and the attitude expressed by the pro-abortion contingent in this thread is that women are colossally stupid.
Like your interpretation of Equal Protection is wrong so is your assumption others think women are dumb.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 08:02 AM
 
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This is my take on it. These women who don't take precautions against getting pregnant just enjoy spontaneous, wild abandoned sex and they just hope they won't get pregnant from it but in the backs of their minds they know they can get an abortion if it happens. Men are guilty of the same but they aren't the ones to get pregnant so less risk for them. They both just allow their sexual urges to over rule their thought processes.

If abortion weren't so readily available perhaps both the woman and the man would think twice about that type of sexual behavior.
And the tooth fairy is real.

If you want to outlaw abortion then say that but saying it's going to change behavior is laughable. Women are not going back to the days of yore.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 08:08 AM
 
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No, it's not.
The unborn child ends up dead, just as in cases of fetal homicide, so yes, it is killing.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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Like your interpretation of Equal Protection is wrong so is your assumption others think women are dumb.
It's not my or anyone else's assumption. You post that women are too stupid to control their own fertility all the time in these threads.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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Like your interpretation of Equal Protection is wrong so is your assumption others think women are dumb.
Abortion Advocates: Women need abortion because:
They forget to take their pills
They forget to use condoms
They don't know where they can get birth control
They use birth control wrong
They have sex when drunk
They have sex with men unsuitable to be fathers
They seem confused that sex can lead to pregnancy
They take no responsibility for their sexual actions

Pro life: Women don't need abortion because:
They know where to get birth control
They use birth control correctly
They use multiple forms of birth control
They choose sex partners wisely
They know that sex can lead to pregnancy
They take responsibility for their sexual actions

Again: Which viewpoint promotes that women are stupid???
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