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Old 12-16-2021, 08:52 AM
 
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Abortion is killing a human life. Abortion should be no more legal than allowing a parent to kill an infant or toddler that is an inconvenience to them.
Abortion is legal. Killing an infant or toddler is illegal. Two different scenarios.

 
Old 12-16-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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Then what is it?
It is a fertilized egg. Call it a zygote if you want. It is not a child or baby. But you knew that.
 
Old 12-16-2021, 08:57 AM
 
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Stuff happens and a woman knows the risks prior to engaging in sex so no I'm not in favor abortion in those cases.
Thank you for a direct answer.
 
Old 12-16-2021, 09:02 AM
 
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And I've already asked a similar question that the pro-abortionists in this thread have failed to answer: Would you agree to ban abortion for those 95% of women with unintended pregnancies who were too irresponsible to even use birth control at all or to use it correctly/consistently?
Deflection. I guess you don't want to answer the question.

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Would you want to ban abortion for those 5% of women for whom birth control failed? Simple question.

Just for examples. Failure could be an IUD became dislodged or the woman got a bad batch of birth control pills.
 
Old 12-16-2021, 09:12 AM
 
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It is a fertilized egg. Call it a zygote if you want. It is not a child or baby. But you knew that.
Wrong again. It is a human being.
 
Old 12-16-2021, 09:15 AM
 
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100% false. Fetal homicide laws have already established the legal precedent that an unborn child is a separate human life. WHAT about that are you FAILING to comprehend?
Once again, those laws set no precedent at all. They could be repealed tomorrow. Precedents are set by judges rulings, not by writing laws. WHAT about that are you FAILING to comprehend? Go talk to an attorney, and get some lessons on the law, because it sure ain't what you think it is.
 
Old 12-16-2021, 09:18 AM
 
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It is a fertilized egg. Call it a zygote if you want. It is not a child or baby. But you knew that.
Yeah... it's amazing when those eggs hatch and a human being pops out.
 
Old 12-16-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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And that's why the FACT that 95% of all unintended pregnancies are the result of failing to use any birth control at all (54%), or using it incorrectly/inconsistently (41%) is so important. Women are doing this to themselves. Other humans shouldn't have to die because of that. Killing them is beyond depraved, it's barbaric.
You keep repeating the same old ridiculous garbage. That repetition doesn't make it any more true than it was the first time you said it. What's beyond depraved and barbaric is your desire to torture women by tying them to a bed until they give birth. At which point, you figuratively take the baby by it's legs and smash its head against a concrete pillar because you don't want to provide any sort of social safety net to help that woman, or in some cases 13 year old girl, be a decent parent.

And, it is never, ever, any of your business that a woman has an abortion. What part of that are you failing to comprehend?
 
Old 12-16-2021, 09:20 AM
 
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Not let them kill any human life that results from such just because they themselves made the deliberate choice to be irresponsible about controlling their own fertility. Do we live in an uncivilized society that lets one human kill another solely for the sake of convenience? That's pretty ugly, and quite barbaric.
Deliberate choice to be irresponsible? You have no idea what happened to cause a birth control failure, yet you expect women to be perfect every time they have sex. That's depraved and barbaric.
 
Old 12-16-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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And I've already asked a similar question that the pro-abortionists in this thread have failed to answer: Would you agree to ban abortion for those 95% of women with unintended pregnancies who were too irresponsible to even use birth control at all or to use it correctly/consistently?
No. It's none of my business whether a woman chooses to have an abortion. Nor is it any of your business.
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