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Once again, you quote garbage arguments and then continue blaming women for not being perfect. Are you perfect? Did you ever make a birth control mistake?
The ACLU does not make a "garbage argument." And it's not about not being perfect. It's about KNOWING they're having unprotected sex because they deliberately CHOSE to not use birth control or used it incorrectly (such as not taking one or more daily pills during a cycle), and then acting like the 'oh, woe is me' victim when the likely result of pregnancy occurs and insist they must be allowed to kill their baby because such an awful thing has "happened" to them (as if they themselves weren't responsible for that exact outcome).
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And, it's none of your business whether a woman chooses to have an abortion. Stay out of other people's lives.
It's always others' business when a human is deliberately killed by another without their consent. If it weren't, anyone could kill anyone else for whatever reason they see fit. It's the same premise as The Purge, except it would exist every day instead of just one day a year. Example... One who doesn't manage their money well: "Can't pay my rent. Damn! Guess I'm going to have to kill my landlord for the sake of my own convenience. Oh, well. Too bad for them."
Once again, you are not understanding that in real life people aren't perfect. Mistakes are made. Were you always perfect? You've never made a mistake? And, it's none of your business, ever, whether a woman chooses to have an abortion.
Driving drunk is exactly such a mistake. People go to prison for killing others because they made the mistake of driving while intoxicated. There's no valid reason why women who don't use birth control or use it incorrectly shouldn't be sent to prison for killing another if they have an abortion. Death = death, no matter how much you try to evade that fact.
Since you don't get it, you might as well advocate making it a crime for a woman to have an unwanted pregnancy after failing to use birth control. The father might as well be subject to the crime to be fair.
Why would being pregnant or having a baby as the result of legally consensual sex be a crime? You're talking gibberish. Projecting, perhaps?
Maybe these horny men need to have control over their body part
Yes, that's also needed. But note that they can't escape the consequences of an unwanted child. Courts order them to pay child support for 18+ years. If they have no choice in opting out of an unwanted pregnancy, why should women?
You have no clue what other women do. You assume they intentionally misuse birth control, which is a horrific form of victim shaming. You make asinine statements like "she should use 2 forms of birth control". Maybe they do, maybe they don't. In the end, it's none of your business whether a woman has an abortion.
You also ignore the fact that half of the women getting abortions live below the Federal poverty line, and have a much harder time getting and being instructed on how to use birth control. Now, Informed Consent will chime in here about the 4,000 Title X family planning clinics, conveniently forgetting that a large portion of poor women live nowhere near one of those clinics, and have no way to get to one.
What would you tell a woman who is poor and already has 3 or 4 or 5 kids and can't afford another one?
"In the end, it's none of your business whether a woman has an abortion."
If they are getting even 1 penny of MY tax dollars, it IS my business.
Everybody is entitled to 1 mistake.
Get pregnant once while NOT married and receiving any gov't welfare, OK
Yes, that's also needed. But note that they can't escape the consequences of an unwanted child. Courts order them to pay child support for 18+ years. If they have no choice in opting out of an unwanted pregnancy, why should women?
Lol, at the comment by the poster you are replying to......."Maybe these horny men need to have control over their body part".
Is she actually implying that because the man was horny that she had to give in to his sexual desires and without protecting herself from an unwanted pregnancy? WTH!
Lol, at the comment by the poster you are replying to......."Maybe these horny men need to have control over their body part".
Is she actually implying that because the man was horny that she had to give in to his sexual desires and without protecting herself from an unwanted pregnancy? WTH!
And as far as cost, birth control is cheaper than an abortion. Which is the smarter financial move?
I am very pro-birth control. However, I am realistic. Birth control is 90% effective in real life. You expect it to be 100% effective, which ignores reality.
"In the end, it's none of your business whether a woman has an abortion."
If they are getting even 1 penny of MY tax dollars, it IS my business.
Everybody is entitled to 1 mistake.
Get pregnant once while NOT married and receiving any gov't welfare, OK
After that, tie their tubes.
It's illegal to force sterilize women.
Welfare is not the joy ride you think it is, either.
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And it's not about not being perfect. It's about KNOWING they're having unprotected sex because they deliberately CHOSE to not use birth control or used it incorrectly (such as not taking one or more daily pills during a cycle), and then acting like the 'oh, woe is me' victim when the likely result of pregnancy occurs and insist they must be allowed to kill their baby because such an awful thing has "happened" to them (as if they themselves weren't responsible for that exact outcome). 
