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Old 12-22-2021, 08:23 AM
 
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Gladly. I have no problem asking "probing" questions aimed at saving the lives of the defenseless.
And when she tells you to get out of her face and stay out of her business, what will you do? Scream "baby killer" at her? It's none of your business whether a woman chooses to get an abortion.

 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:26 AM
 
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So now you want to force-sterilize women as well as force them to give birth? What do you have against women? Why do you think it's even your business what other women do?
Seems these anti choice folks want them to be celibate or use two forms of bc. No social services, they get to look down on them for being poor. Want them on a strict budget as another thread explains. No birthday cake for the kid either. These women should take personal responsibility.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:33 AM
 
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"What else do you want a poor woman with more children than she can handle already to do?"


I HOPE you are NOT being serious!
I am completely serious. A poor woman, married or not, with 3 or 4 or 5 children already may not be able to handle the cost of another child. A woman who is barely getting by already will most likely be thrown into poverty if she has another child.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN1F731Z

https://19thnews.org/2021/09/abortio...rty-texas-law/
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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Fact. Thousands and thousands of men skip out on court order child support leaving the woman to raise their child on her own.
That does nothing to release the legal obligation. My point stands: When men can't "keep it in their pants," they're saddled with 18+ years of child support payments. Why shouldn't women have the exact same 18+ year responsibility for a child when they've failed to prevent an unwanted pregnancy?
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:37 AM
 
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That does nothing to release the legal obligation. My point stands: When men can't "keep it in their pants," they're saddled with 18+ years of child support payments. Why shouldn't women have the exact same 18+ year responsibility for a child when they've failed to prevent an unwanted pregnancy?
They do if their choice is birth.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:39 AM
 
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They do if their choice is birth.
You're missing the point. How do women have a "choice" but men don't? That's sex-based discrimination, which is unconstitutional as well as a violation of the federal Civil Rights Act.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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That does nothing to release the legal obligation. My point stands: When men can't "keep it in their pants," they're saddled with 18+ years of child support payments. Why shouldn't women have the exact same 18+ year responsibility for a child when they've failed to prevent an unwanted pregnancy?
18 years of paying money is NOTHING when compared to a woman's bodily changes (and possible lifelong medical problems) when forced to give birth and the 18+ years of caring for that child. No comparison whatsoever!
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:49 AM
 
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I am completely serious. A poor woman, married or not, with 3 or 4 or 5 children already may not be able to handle the cost of another child. A woman who is barely getting by already will most likely be thrown into poverty if she has another child.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN1F731Z

https://19thnews.org/2021/09/abortio...rty-texas-law/
And when a family of 5 with 3 kids loses financial security, which child do you think they should kill?

Since money is your parameter, these 2 situations are equal.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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If a woman has 3-5 children already and can't support another one then why did she engage in an activity and probably without protection, that creates another child?
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:52 AM
 
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You're missing the point. How do women have a "choice" but men don't? That's sex-based discrimination, which is unconstitutional as well as a violation of the federal Civil Rights Act.
Biology. His choice is before sex and after. Same as a woman’s.
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