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It will stick no matter how they rule. From there, states will vary in their approach, plus in how quickly they apply their approach.
Depends on the ruling. But, in the long run I don't agree.
If the ruling undermines women's rights, they will not leave those rights in the hands of the states and will eventually elect people who will codify their rights at the federal level. Too many states have shown they can't be trusted with women's civil rights.
And, that's before even discussing changing the makeup of the court.
Abortion will remain an insignificant ballot box issue, as it always has. When forced ranking is asked via polling, it tends to land 4th or 5th usually.
Economy is always #1.
It's a nice issue to raise money, not a nice issue at the polls.
"The Supreme Court did not "invent" legal abortion, much less abortion itself, when it handed down its historic Roe v. Wade decision in 1973. Abortion, both legal and illegal, had long been part of life in America."
Roe's face (in what they painted of the picture) was that of a desperate woman, she even testified that she had been raped, which was a lie ... it was all a ruse. There was never a need to make a federal case out it.
"State legislatures across the country will be responding to the possibility of seismic change to the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion across the U.S. Republican-led legislatures are ready to further restrict or ban abortions outright while Democratic-led ones are seeking to ensure access to abortion in their state law."
Abortion will remain an insignificant ballot box issue, as it always has. When forced ranking is asked via polling, it tends to land 4th or 5th usually.
Economy is always #1.
It's a nice issue to raise money, not a nice issue at the polls.
That will never change.
Are you seriously unaware that abortion IS an economic issue? It costs about $15,000/yr to raise a middle class child. To age 18 its over $200,000 and as much as 230K to 260K depending on the source.
That's without college tuition.
In any case, there has not been to my recollection the current situation where a court ruling may deprive people of significant civil rights. That is uncharted territory.
Until now Democrats claims against Republicans chipping away at abortion rights have been seen as crying wolf. If a court ruling results in a wolf at the door, things will change.
Americans in general are reactive, not proactive. The Supremes decision will be announced just as mid-terms are gearing up. If their ruling leaves Roe in tatters it will be a whole new ball game.
Raising money, plus relevant messaging and aggressive voter registration/turnout is an election changing proposition.
Thanks though once again for the reminder that fund raising is important. Anyone pro-choice should check out NARAL where your donation for the fight to secure safe/legal abortion will be matched until tomorrow at midnight. Spread the word.
Are you seriously unaware that abortion IS an economic issue? It costs about $15,000/yr to raise a middle class child. To age 18 its over $200,000 and as much as 230K to 260K depending on the source.
That's without college tuition.
In any case, there has not been to my recollection the current situation where a court ruling may deprive people of significant civil rights. That is uncharted territory.
Until now Democrats claims against Republicans chipping away at abortion rights have been seen as crying wolf. If a court ruling results in a wolf at the door, things will change.
Americans in general are reactive, not proactive. The Supremes decision will be announced just as mid-terms are gearing up. If their ruling leaves Roe in tatters it will be a whole new ball game.
Raising money, plus relevant messaging and aggressive voter registration/turnout is an election changing proposition.
Thanks though once again for the reminder that fund raising is important. Anyone pro-choice should check out NARAL where your donation for the fight to secure safe/legal abortion will be matched until tomorrow at midnight. Spread the word.
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Originally Posted by Blondy
Are you seriously unaware that abortion IS an economic issue?
"Many findings from other country contexts are similar to those from the United States: abortion access increased educational attainment among women and improved outcomes for children. Decreased fertility increased women’s labor market participation."
On a national level with fertility rates at 1.79 we're in uncharted territory and economist haven't done the math yet.
In the Mississippi case (economic correlation) being brought before the Supreme Court, Lynn Fitch, presented her brief:
"She wrote that policies like paid family leave, child care, and greater work flexibility have allowed women to have “a full family life and a successful career,” something there was little support for in 1973. Fitch further argued that linking abortion policy to economic advancement constituted a “stunted debate on how we support women,” and encouraged the court to let states make their own decisions about abortion rights by overturning Roe." The US Supreme Court is considering the economic impact of abortion
Then the article continues with the argument against Fitch's brief --- but on a national level, in time, the country may pay for our sins ... time will tell.
"Many findings from other country contexts are similar to those from the United States: abortion access increased educational attainment among women and improved outcomes for children. Decreased fertility increased women’s labor market participation."
On a national level with fertility rates at 1.79 we're in uncharted territory and economist haven't done the math yet.
In the Mississippi case (economic correlation) being brought before the Supreme Court, Lynn Fitch, presented her brief:
"She wrote that policies like paid family leave, child care, and greater work flexibility have allowed women to have “a full family life and a successful career,” something there was little support for in 1973. Fitch further argued that linking abortion policy to economic advancement constituted a “stunted debate on how we support women,” and encouraged the court to let states make their own decisions about abortion rights by overturning Roe." The US Supreme Court is considering the economic impact of abortion
Then the article continues with the argument against Fitch's brief --- but on a national level, in time, the country may pay for our sins ... time will tell.
Oh for gods sake lol. There is no paid child care in MS. And, I seriously doubt the Supremes are considering the economic impact of abortion. What la la land are you living in? Are you aware that MS women die from pregnancy at a rate three times that of the rest of the country? Seriously, get real.
Not true. Fetal homicide laws disprove your assertion, and even in California, women have been prosecuted for and convicted of child abuse for abusing drugs during pregnancy.
Once again this proves just how all out wrong you are. Blide yourself to it again, if you want.
"Indiana Senate Enrolled Act 203 states that killing a fetus at any stage of development is murder unless the woman terminates her own pregnancy or obtains an abortion. Applicable to Indiana Code 35-42-1-1, 35-42-1-3, 35-42-1-4, 35-42-1-6"
Their own bodies, yes. But abortion involves the killing of a human life that is NOT a part of a woman's body. The unborn child has completely different DNA.
But once again, the unborn child does not have full human rights as a child until the time it is born.
"The Supreme Court did not "invent" legal abortion, much less abortion itself, when it handed down its historic Roe v. Wade decision in 1973. Abortion, both legal and illegal, had long been part of life in America."
Roe's face (in what they painted of the picture) was that of a desperate woman, she even testified that she had been raped, which was a lie ... it was all a ruse. There was never a need to make a federal case out it.
I am only concerned with today. There is today a need to codify at the federal level the right to abortion for women.
States cannot be trusted as they have proven over and over again to protect the civil rights of women.
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